Shot a nice large doe at about 375 yards yesterday. I was using my 7mm Rem Mag loaded with 140gr Accubonds. MV with my load is 3220fps. She was quartering to me and up the hill from my position. The bullet hit a little higher than I wanted but entered the should and then broke about 4 vertebrate. When I skinned the deer I found the bullets stuck in the offside skin. It looks just like a partition. Peeled back to where it looks to be about 60% of the length and the rest mushroomed back. I took some pics of the bullet and will try to remember how to post them. I plan on putting it on the powder scale tonight.
Rdd: I shot a large Whitetail Buck a week ago. I was shooting the wonderfully accurate and lethal 130 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip in my 270. One shot kill at 275 yards. Dead in seconds with the heart/lung hold/hit. The recovered 130 grain Ballistic Tip weighed 71 grains. I looked for more bullet fragments but found none - much of the bullets fragments probably were in the heart/lung tissue which I did not look through. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Rdd: I shot a large Whitetail Buck a week ago. I was shooting the wonderfully accurate and lethal 130 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip in my 270. One shot kill at 275 yards. Dead in seconds with the heart/lung hold/hit. The recovered 130 grain Ballistic Tip weighed 71 grains. I looked for more bullet fragments but found none - much of the bullets fragments probably were in the heart/lung tissue which I did not look through. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
How about a pic?
I've always wondered what a 130 would look like
Originally Posted by shrapnel
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
Did you weight the bullet? Nosler told me they were designed to maintain 70%, same as the partition.
I recovered two this year and the 70% is pretty much spot on. Both were .277 140's.
One came from a 320 yard buck quartering towards the shooter entering the front shoulder and lodging under the hide in the ham. 99 grains retained=70.7%.
The other was a 60 yard quartering towards the shooter WT buck and the bullet again entered the shoulder blade and was found in the front portion of the ham under hide. 96 grains retained=68.5%.
Put it on the scale and the weight was 97gr. That is right at the 70% mark. My photos look just like what Shrapnel posted. I think that I will continue to use them.
The 70% applies to AB's of .30 caliber and under, but will vary about 5% on either side of that.
Like bigger Partitions, most AccuBonds above .30 caliber are designed to retain a higher percentage of weight. The bigger recovered AccuBonds I have in my collection range from the 225-grain .338 to the 260-grain .375, and average 79% weight retention. The highest is 81%, a 250-grain 9.3mm recovered from an angling-away shot on a grizzly. The bullet entered the rear of the rib cage and was found under the neck skin on the far side.
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Like bigger Partitions, most AccuBonds above .30 caliber are designed to retain a higher percentage of weight. The bigger recovered AccuBonds I have in my collection range from the 225-grain .338 to the 260-grain .375, and average 79% weight retention. The highest is 81%, a 250-grain 9.3mm recovered from an angling-away shot on a grizzly. The bullet entered the rear of the rib cage and was found under the neck skin on the far side.
This mirrors my experiences with the 260-grain .375 AB used on elk and African plains game, as well as with the 250-grain 9.3s on elk. I have never recovered any from .25, .27 or .30 caliber cartridges used on mule deer and pronghorns.
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Some days it takes most of the day for me to do practically nothing...
I have recovered two 35 cal Accubonds from game fired from a 35 Whelen.
225 gr Accubond
From a moose at under 50 yards so around 2675-2700 fps impact velocity, bullet travelled through the meaty part of the shoulders just grazing some heavy bone and a was found in the hide on the far side.
191 gr (84.9%) .710" diameter
200 gr Accubond
From a black bear this spring and again around 50 yards, hit bones in both shoulders and found in the hide on the far side
138 gr (69%) .660" diameter.
I'm a big fan of the 35 and 375 cal Accubonds that I have used don't have the 375 anymore but the 260 gr AB worked great too.
I have recovered two 180 Accubonds from downed animals. The first was a Burchells zebra shot in the left shoulder that ended up in the right shoulder just under the skin. The second was a 180 Accubond that was recovered from a blue Wildebeest shot in the chest, frontal shot, that ended up in the back of the beasts stomach. I weighed both and they each retain approx. 75-70% of original weight. I am a true fan of this bullet. I handload all of these for my 300WSM. Happy thanksgiving to all. MTG
Petro, I took a Scimtar Horned Oryx with my 280AI using a 140 Nosler Ballistic tip. One shot, down for the count. I would think the 140 Accubond would be even better. MTG
I've got a couple of boxes of 140 grain .284 to try in my 7mm-08 and 7mm RM...
This thread is useful and reassuring to my interests.
Here's what's left of that bullet after killing a 4x4 bull elk at 68 yards last year.
Broke the left scapula going in, destroyed both lungs, broke a rib going out and lodged under the hide. The bull took two steps forward, staggered backwards two steps, and died in the tracks where I shot him.
91 grains IIRC. Muzzle velocity 2843.
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On a fluke I bought a Win Coyote Lite in .25 wssm, I loved the old grey box 120 gr PEP's, worked great on SW GA whitetails, I ran out and bought a few boxes of the Black box 110 gr accubonds. Almost as accurate as BT's and do a fantastic job on whitetails! I have recovered 3 so far, I have not weighed to check retained wt. but they hold together very well! I am sold on the accubond whatever cal. Im using the 160 gr in my 7STW and love the performance. I have not tried the LR version yet but no doubt my go to for any cal now! WinPoor
Just for kicks, last night I weighed the (7) .277 140 AB's that I have recovered from critters since I started using them in 2006. The average percent retained weight for those 7 bullets was 71%. This is from right around 24-26 animals killed over that time using the 140 AB. Mostly deer and elk. The majority exited, but probably one or two more were lost in animals.
When I first switched to the 140 AB, I did some dry newsprint bullet testing that JB (Muledeer)suggests is much like hitting heavy bone on an animal. Of the 8 bullets shot into dry newsprint at 50 yards, those bullets retained 63% of their original weight. Like MD mentioned on here a time or two, dry newsprint is often tougher on bullets than the real deal.
I have recovered two 35 cal Accubonds from game fired from a 35 Whelen.
225 gr Accubond
From a moose at under 50 yards so around 2675-2700 fps impact velocity, bullet travelled through the meaty part of the shoulders just grazing some heavy bone and a was found in the hide on the far side.
191 gr (84.9%) .710" diameter
200 gr Accubond
From a black bear this spring and again around 50 yards, hit bones in both shoulders and found in the hide on the far side
138 gr (69%) .660" diameter.
I'm a big fan of the 35 and 375 cal Accubonds that I have used don't have the 375 anymore but the 260 gr AB worked great too.
Not much holding that tip in there. Is there??
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.