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Is Kevin Gibson gun geek now?
Jed York does not own the 49ers; Russell Wilson does.
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What's the big deal with selling cigarettes? In NYC, that's a FAR greater offense than almost any other. Not only did Der Mayor decree them "evil", but the City taxes them about $5/pack, and you're cutting into their take of the business.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Is Kevin Gibson gun geek now? Yes
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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Paddy wagons arriving at RC.
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What's the big deal with selling cigarettes? Stolen or bootlegged cigs don't have the state taxes paid in them. Like moonshining, .gov will get it's share.
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but the City taxes them about $5/pack, and you're cutting into their take of the business. Yep. Cutting the city out on their taxes is a capital offense. 
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Look at those queer bait whites lying there. Filth!
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Paddy wagons arriving at RC. There ya' go. Could get bad no kidding! The loose cigs are called loosies! They go for about a buck a piece. Amazing!
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I believe he announced his lack of participation here a few years back because of all of the racists here. Must have had a change of heart. 
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Jed York does not own the 49ers; Russell Wilson does.
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Is Kevin Gibson gun geek now? I started at this forum about a decade ago when I was working as a gun writer. Then there was a push for the gun writers to use their names, so I changed. After I hadn't been a gun writer for several years, I didn't feel it was necessary to post under Kevin Gibson anymore and went back to being the GunGeek.
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Too much for a loosie....... 
Jed York does not own the 49ers; Russell Wilson does.
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Is Kevin Gibson gun geek now? I started at this forum about a decade ago when I was working as a gun writer. Then there was a push for the gun writers to use their names, so I changed. After I hadn't been a gun writer for several years, I didn't feel it was necessary to post under Kevin Gibson anymore and went back to being the GunGeek. OIC.
Jed York does not own the 49ers; Russell Wilson does.
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But if he had underlying medical conditions, the heart attack can be brought on by lack of oxygen. And it�s not how long you hold the arm across the trachea, but how hard. It can be just a second, but if it�s hard swelling can start. I�m betting there�s a reason the ME ruled it a homicide. I think that cop screwed the pooch.
Again, I�m not saying there was anything racial about it. I�m just saying this doesn�t pass the smell test.
If you or I did something to make someone have a heart attack, you and I both know we�d be staring down a manslaughter charge�why is it different for this cop?
Or isn't it more likely it was brought on by all the excitement of him getting his ass kicked by the cops for resisting arrest? Not according to the ME who ruled it a homicide. He has the full picture, you and I are just speculating.
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Of course it's the cops fault that a morbidly obese dude with potential medical problems decided to tussle. They should've had him fill out a questionnaire first.
Nobody's responsible for themselves as long as there's a cop nearby to blame. That's not what I'm saying and you know it. The cops are responsible for THEIR actions. One man acted outside policy and it resulted in a death; that's serious. That should at least call for an accounting. 1-There's no way you can know the cop's actions caused the death. That'd take someone with more information.....like a Grand Jury. 2-New York is fixna blow up, just like Ferguson. The AG is getting involved. That NY prosecutor had NO vested interest in covering up a black guy getting murdered. The (elected) prosecutor would've been a hero to indict the cop.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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I've never heard a career crook accept responsibility for his behavior that got him into deep trouble - even a morbidly obese career criminal in poor health. It's always someone else's fault. Is there a pattern?
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The procedural fault i can see is, as soon as he became aggressively non compliant, someone should have been yelling TASER, TASER, TASER!!
Chances are he would have still had the MI, but procedurally all involved would be on stronger legs Just him thinking about a taser would of given him a heart attack. It may have, and that would be in accordance with common accepted procedure...and I would be on the other side of this discussion. But he went against procedure and a man is dead.
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I've never heard a career crook accept responsibility for his behavior that got him into deep trouble - even a morbidly obese career criminal in poor health. It's always someone else's fault. Is there a pattern? Dey all Dindu Nuffins now...
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So police policy is the ultimate arbiter of right and wrong?
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Well, it's different, for one thing because the dead dude was aggressively non-compliant and resisting an otherwise lawful arrest and the cop was acting in accordance with his duty. If fat-azz didn't want to risk an ass-kicking and/or heart attack, complying with the arrest (he'd been through 31 prior, he knew the drill) would have been a good start. Resist, and you are going to risk some injury.
That's one, for starters. I�m with you there, the guy was a POS. But we have a cop clearly acting OUTSIDE of his rules of engagement and a man lost his life; doesn�t that concern you? If they sprayed him with pepper spray, or hit him with a night stick, I really wouldn�t have an issue. But an improper choke hold is just incredibly dumb, and EVERY cop knows better. Hell I�ve had to transport people to the hospital in cuffs on the off chance that one of the officers may have grabbed him around the neck during a takedown. This isn�t some strange happening, it�s well established that choke holds kill people, that cop knew better. The guy who died, he's no great loss to society, and I don't give a rats if he's black white or whatever; he was a POS. What I'm concerned about is a prosecutor and grand jury cover the arse of a copy who was clearly out of line...it's called a cover up. You and I do something like that, we're going to prison.
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What's the big deal with selling cigarettes? Obama doesn't get his cut, that's the problem.
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