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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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I got to say I still have issues with this one and I'm not alone.

Judge Napolitano, Krauthammer, and Goldstein on FOX last night all felt the GJ should have returned an indictment and have this settled by going to trial.
Obviously a bunch of Libtards.


Real shocker you side with a bunch of Jews.



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All who would promote "cop cams" are free to strap a Go Pro to their forehead. They could then be assured that their crime and subsequent abuse by the police would be well documented and justice would prevail.

Ordinary citizens could do the same and uplink it to NSA and make us all safer. You would look cool and provide a good supply source to the local thugs who would rob you.

Oh, I forgot that the camera would be a deterrant to anti-social behavior.

Lots of critical thinkers and potential victims here.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Real shocker you side with a bunch of Jews.



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We of the Mossad always side with our fellow-religionists.

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If cops can only arrest people for being dangerous....

What about the perv exposing himself in a park? Or taking under-stall pics in a bathroom? Or hobos taking a dump on the front porch of your business? Or stealing your car? None of those are dangerous in and of themselves. So tickets would be best?


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Dumb asses keep going down this asinine path, and before you know, the movie "Demolition Man" will be reality. eek



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Originally Posted by MadMooner
Apparently the cops kill them too.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/27/showbiz/cops-crew-member-shot-killed/

My bad bro! Bro? You alright bro?


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Originally Posted by deflave


Real shocker you side with a bunch of Jews.



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Napolitano ain't no Hebe, but he's still wrong on this thing.

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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
If cops can only arrest people for being dangerous....

What about the perv exposing himself in a park? Or taking under-stall pics in a bathroom? Or hobos taking a dump on the front porch of your business? Or stealing your car? None of those are dangerous in and of themselves. So tickets would be best?


You regular cops don't need guns, just cameras. Take a picture of the B.G. and upload it to roving SWAT Teams who are patrolling in their tanks and let them deal with it.

Y'all can all go home at the end of your shift. that way.

See... there is a use for cameras in LE.


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I'd def sign up for that.


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
If cops can only arrest people for being dangerous....

What about the perv exposing himself in a park? Or taking under-stall pics in a bathroom? Or hobos taking a dump on the front porch of your business? Or stealing your car? None of those are dangerous in and of themselves. So tickets would be best?
I think what he was suggesting was that, in those case, get an arrest warrant first.

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No, he said to write them a ticket. What about when they don't show up for ticket court? Do the cops put hands on them then?

Or what about when you scratch out a ticket and the fool keeps acting foolish anyway, never even stops long enough to sign the ticket?

What do I do with the guy until the warrant is written and signed? Follow the guy around for a few hours and just let him keep on acting the fool? Can I out hands on him to at least make him stop taking the naughty pics? Can I physically stop him from erasing the pics and thus destroying the evidence against him?

Point being, that sooner or later in a nation of laws the popo is gonna have to put hands on a fool.


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A guy steals Hawkeye's car and Hawkeye wants the cops to get an arrest warrant before they take the thief into custody?

Is that what he's saying?

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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
No, he said to write them a ticket. What about when they don't show up for ticket court? Do the cops put hands on them then?

Or what about when you scratch out a ticket and the fool keeps acting foolish anyway, never even stops long enough to sign the ticket?

What do I do with the guy until the warrant is written and signed? Follow the guy around for a few hours and just let him keep on acting the fool? Can I out hands on him to at least make him stop taking the naughty pics? Can I physically stop him from erasing the pics and thus destroying the evidence against him?

Point being, that sooner or later in a nation of laws the popo is gonna have to put hands on a fool.
Sure, but if he doesn't show up to court or pay the fine, you'll have an arrest warrant. Most would pay the fine or show up to court, thus avoiding the police confrontation phase in most cases.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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No, he said to write them a ticket. What about when they don't show up for ticket court? Do the cops put hands on them then?

Or what about when you scratch out a ticket and the fool keeps acting foolish anyway, never even stops long enough to sign the ticket?

What do I do with the guy until the warrant is written and signed? Follow the guy around for a few hours and just let him keep on acting the fool? Can I out hands on him to at least make him stop taking the naughty pics? Can I physically stop him from erasing the pics and thus destroying the evidence against him?

Point being, that sooner or later in a nation of laws the popo is gonna have to put hands on a fool.
Sure, but if he doesn't show up to court or pay the fine, you'll have an arrest warrant. Most would show up to court, thus avoiding the confrontation phase in most cases.



Ummm no they wouldn't. You have absolutely no idea how many bench warrants hang on our wall for petty crap that they just don't appear at court for


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The underlying problem, of course, is that there are too many ways to violate the law, i.e., not nearly enough liberty. It should be pretty fundamental that if two people wish to exchange money for a cigarette, for example, there's no need to have a third party involved in the deal, namely the government.

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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
Point being, that sooner or later in a nation of laws the popo is gonna have to put hands on a fool.

But which of those laws being violated do you feel warrant you putting your hands on a citizen...? There have been many shootings, of both police officers and the public, over seatbelt violations...! Just doesn't seem worth it...
Seems like discretion ought to be an ingredient, especially on the part of the officer, for 'crimes' such as seatbelt violations, minor traffic violations, expired auto plates, etc. You guys can more than likely tell the difference between some guy on his way to work not wearing a seatbelt, or going 5-10 mph over the speed limit...as opposed to someone who is committing a crime against another person or their property.


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No they wouldn't. Roughly a third of tickets go unpaid. That's just for traffic fines. You think a guy is gonna just show up for his naughty picture trial out of the goodness of his heart? No, that's why judges require people to post bond.

Answer the questions. Short of an arrest warrant, is there a non-violent scenario that when a cop can put hands on a suspect?


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
The underlying problem, of course, is that there are too many ways to violate the law, i.e., not nearly enough liberty. It should be pretty fundamental that if two people wish to exchange money for a cigarette, for example, there's no need to have a third party involved in the deal, namely the government.


Word.


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Point being, that sooner or later in a nation of laws the popo is gonna have to put hands on a fool.

But which of those laws being violated do you feel warrant you putting your hands on a citizen...? There have been many shootings, of both police officers and the public, over seatbelt violations...! Just doesn't seem worth it...
Seems like discretion ought to be an ingredient, especially on the part of the officer, for 'crimes' such as seatbelt violations, minor traffic violations, expired auto plates, etc. You guys can more than likely tell the difference between some guy on his way to work not wearing a seatbelt, or going 5-10 mph over the speed limit...as opposed to someone who is committing a crime against another person or their property.


Sure, I can. But good luck hiring a department full of cops as good as me. Especially as cheaply as some of them are paid.


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
You have absolutely no idea how many bench warrants hang on our wall for petty crap that they just don't appear at court for

Then why bother with it at all, if it's "petty"...? Surely there are wose crimes for the police to be involved with than those that police officers themselves describe as "petty"...?


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