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What you guys using?

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For paper punching / other sundry shooting chores, not self defense:

200 grain lead SWC over:

6.7 gr PowerPistol
5.2 gr Bullseye
5.2 gr SOLO 1000

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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
For paper punching / other sundry shooting chores, not self defense:

200 grain lead SWC over:

6.7 gr PowerPistol
5.2 gr Bullseye
5.2 gr SOLO 1000

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230 over 4.8 gerains of TG

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185 swc over Unique or accurate #5.

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The following are good with any quality H&G #68 or close copy. 1.250" OAL, W231 powder, Winchester primers and a good snug taper crimp to prevent bullet setback.

4.0 grains, for 626 fps. Cycles & feeds perfectly in my USGI pattern 1911, really thumps pests/small game load & shoots to the sights at 20 yards or a tad further. Quiet enough that a few rounds w/o earplugs will not deafen you. Will just shoot through a pine 2x4 and sink the nose in another behind it. A friend pointed out that the ballistics of this load is a near match for the old .38, 200 grain Super Police load and I would not hesitate to use it for indoor defense. I use this load to 'cycle-out' worn-out casings and stain them black to make them readily identifiable. A favorite 'fun load' and perfect for introducing small folks to the 1911.

Same as above except 5.0 grains, for 826 fps. Good accurate load with negligible recoil, groups right along with decent JHP's like WW/USA 230; shoots to the same POI out to 50 yards. Would serve fine as a defense load if that what happens to be in the gun.


I also use Missouri Bullet�s 225 grain Flathead loaded to 1.220� OAL over 5.4 grains of W231 for 840 fps from a 5" Rock Island 1911.

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Shoots pretty good at 50 yards.

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Closing thoughts- according to some references this is a tenth of a grain over the recommended max, for a similar 230 grain bullet. Use at your own risk. Also, at 1.220� OAL the shoulder of this bullet is just kissing the rifling of the Rock Island�s barrel. I was tempted to shorten it, but at that length it feeds perfectly in 1911 barrels with either the wadcutter or GI throat. At 770 or so fps, I was getting a bit of leading in the grooves. At 840 fps, it has all but disappeared. I�m guessing the bullet is obturating and filling the grooves better at the higher velocity. The load shoots great and it produces the numbers I wanted. It works- and I sure ain�t fixing it.

More here: http://www.thesixgunjournal.net/missouri-bullets-225-grain-flathead-for-the-45-auto/


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230gr XTP, 7.2 gr Unique. 950 fps from my G21.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
230gr XTP, 7.2 gr Unique. 950 fps from my G21.


Those the #45160 Hornady's? I just picked up a bunch of these if so and I also have plenty of Unique on hand as well.

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230gr XTP, 7.2 gr Unique. 950 fps from my G21.


Those the #45160 Hornady's? I just picked up a bunch of these if so and I also have plenty of Unique on hand as well.


Yes.

They have a little more shazam than most 45ACP, but Quickload puts pressure around 21K PSI, so it's really only on the border of +P pressure.

In my G21 it runs fine with the factory spring, or with a Wolff 22-lb spring.

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My 4506 would digest that and ask for more...


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I don't doubt that.

The G21 would take more too, some folks run 45 Super through the Glocks, as issued.

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8 grains of #5 with 230 grain XTP's, bulk Remmys or Montana Gold HP's or FMJ's, Starline brass and CCI-300 primers, 1.20" OAL. Getting right at 900 FPS out of a 5" Ruger 1911.

Haven't chrono'ed them yet out of my 4" XD Compact. Just got a pound of CFE Pistol, gonna use that with the same bullets. Pistol powder's scarce here.


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5.2 HP 38 1.240 OAL 230 grain FMJ. works well in my 1911's

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6.5 grains Unique under whatever 230 grain jacketed bullet comes to hand...OAL varies. Rem,Win or Federal brass and a Federal Large Pistol cap.

Developed that load for the 625, but it works so good in 1911s that I just standardized on it.


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Many years ago I found that a good 200 gr. lead semi wadcutter at 850 fps or even less can do alot of things well while being cheap to shoot. It lacks nothing as a target round, or a small game load.
I suggest you try any of the faster powders, varing the charge by .3 grs. until your gun shoot them accurately. Don't be surprised if even a service grade 1911 will put five into 1.5 inches at 25 yds. The trick is to use good brass, and find just what the gun likes. E

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200 gr cast SWC over 5.0 Tite Group has been my best target/plinking load in at least one 1911...

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Originally Posted by 270winchester
8 grains of #5 with 230 grain...

...is what I generally load in my M&P.

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Originally Posted by s4s4u
230 over 4.8 gerains of TG


To the OP:

That's a high book load. Start lower and work up. You might find your gun's max is a little lower.


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Here's LBT'S 230 LFN at 50 yards with 5.8 grains W231 and 1.200 seating depth. Gun is a 4" 1911.

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I Like using Accurate Arm's #5 & #7 Powder's using a 200 grain Rainier semi wad cutter style copper flashed bullet, it work's for me and my Classic Five screw S&W as shown. Regards, The General

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230 grain JHP 7.5 grains Power Pistol

230 grain JHP 7.5 grains Longshot



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I have been casting and shooting that #68 200 grainer with 5gr of 231 for years.


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For practice and target, if use the Missouri Bullets 225 Flathead over 5.2 grs. of HP-38 for 800 fps in a 5" 1911. For defense, I use the 230 gr XTP over a fairly stiff charge of HS-6 (9.0) grs. This is from the 45 ACP +P Hodgdon used to publish. Max in that data was 9.3 grs. of HS-6 with a 230. That being said, 98% of my 45 ACP shooting is with the 225 Cast load at 800 fps.

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185gr xtp @1100fps.

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Originally Posted by generalstuart
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I Like using Accurate Arm's #5 & #7 Powder's using a 200 grain Rainier semi wad cutter style copper flashed bullet, it work's for me and my Classic Five screw S&W as shown. Regards, The General

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That is a very nice S&W.

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I cast up a bunch of 230gr LRN 97% lead, 1% tin, and 2% antimony, water dropped.
For bowing pins I have two loads with these depending on if the pins are used and heavy or new and light.
Light load-4.2 gr. tite group
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255 gr SWC over 5.2 gr of Unique

As an aside, I need to use 9 gr of Unique with the exact same bullet to get the same speed out of a revolver in .45 Colt.

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I mostly shoot a 200 gr swc tl cranked out from a six shooter lee mold.

I load them over either 5 gr of Bullseye or 6g or Unique and both loads are very accurate.

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Originally Posted by bearstalker
What you guys using?


10.0 gr power pistol under a 185 gr Barnes Tac-Xp.


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4.3 grains of Clays
200 grain SWC.


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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
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230gr XTP, 7.2 gr Unique. 950 fps from my G21.


Those the #45160 Hornady's? I just picked up a bunch of these if so and I also have plenty of Unique on hand as well.


Yes.

They have a little more shazam than most 45ACP, but Quickload puts pressure around 21K PSI, so it's really only on the border of +P pressure.

In my G21 it runs fine with the factory spring, or with a Wolff 22-lb spring.


I tried this load in my FNX last weekend, also with the Berry's 230 FMJs. Good stuff! Pistol has some thump to it now. Only thing I noticed with Unique that I didn't like, was that the powder doesn't seem to meter well.

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235 gr cast truncated cone with AA 5.


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200gr Cast (RCBS 45-201SWC for me).
5.6 gr of Win 231.

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