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What does that have to do with the OPs question?

Shod

To the OP, If you want a fixed power scope, I sure do like the Leupold 6x36. I would probably put a #1 reticle in it and rock on.

If you went variable I would like to see a 3-9x40 Trijicon on that rifle with a Green BAC reticle.

WOW!

I was happy with a new style K4 on a long-action 700. I tried to use the K6 on a long-action 77. It seemed good at the range, but out hunting in heavy clothing it was unusable. I couldn't get my eye close enough to the scope.

Eye relief is only about a quarter inch longer on the 4x versus the 6x. Same length, dimensions, etc. Maybe it was the Ruger rings that didn't allow it??

I'll be using them with reversed Talley's up front on the long actions. So we shall see.

It is funny, though....that Weaver doesn't list the tube length for mounting. I couldn't find that spec anywhere.

I thought this was a family oriented forum.

Shod

It is, I included his family. If he don't like it, he shouldn't have started it.

I only checked specs on Midway earlier today and they listed 3.3" on the K4 and 3.6" on the K6. Wonder if they have a typo and those are reversed? I would expect the 4 to have more than the 6... I feel part of the mounting/eye relief issues I've had were related to the short tube length and long taper on the objective bell that prevents the scope from being positioned far enough back.

Weaver's website lists 3.43" for the K4 & 3.15" for the K6.

That's more what I remember from my old one - definite no-go for me...

So why does the consensus seem to be that you need a 6x scope for a 200 yard shot? Give me the extra field of view and faster target acquisition of a 4x or a 2.5x at that range. A 6x on a "brush gun" is kind of like doing trim work with a framing hammer sure you can pull it off, but there are better tools for the job.

yes I have one on a muzzle loader and plan to buy another or move the one I have to a cartridge rifle. I will probably wind up with another Meopta Meopro with the #4 for my Kimber 308.

here is my pretend scenario that I just dreamed up, your sitting in a ground blind in Georgia at sunset plus 20 on a dirt road in an oak thicket, your hear a deer walking briskly thru the leaves up the hill and it pops out about 50 yards away and is walking briskly across the road, what do you have in your hands your bino's or your rifle? I guess you have 4-5 seconds. Again I don't hunt much but like to watch it on TV so just wondering.

Tim,

You are absolutely correct! Why give up so much feild of veiw? Bobin also offered a word of wisdom back on I believe page 2.

Doesn't make a whole lot of sence putting a 600 yd scope on a 200 yd rifle.

Shod

You can't pay for this kind of humor.

I have nothing against 6x scopes. I have plenty of experience with them over nearly four decades, and currently own 3, but I wouldn't have one on a .444 Marlin. IMHO a 4x makes much better sense, and is much better suited in particular to shots which may be close and on fast moving game, where my own direct experience tells me a 6x is not as well suited, as well as having plenty of magnification for shots out to the 200 yard mark.

As I said some pages back, that is what I found worked very well on my own Marlin, and what I have for a similar application on a 9.3.

I never offered to pay!

Shod

If by chance you don't shoot with both eyes open, then give it some practice time and you will see the FOV is not all that different.

Both eyes open are the way to go. Some guys can do it with 10x at pretty close range but that's not the norm. If you're a right handed shooter and slightly left eye dominate you won the genetic lotto.

A right handed shooter who is strongly right eye dominant is going to have a very hard time shooting both eyes.

we have to have a picture of see through mounts to be complete.