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Campfire Ranger
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Metal fit is great, triggers are great, most are very accurate.
The stock ergos suck and get worse with a scope. They are heavy.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Metal fit is great, triggers are great, most are very accurate.
The stock ergos suck and get worse with a scope. They are heavy. Spot on, although they did improve the scope issue somewhat during the post war transition and into the 50s.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Campfire Kahuna
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When folks that run them, say they are very accurate. Are we saying a gun from the 60s or earlier is more accurate than those produced today on average?
What made that so?
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Campfire Kahuna
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Campfire Kahuna
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The stock ergos suck and get worse with a scope. They are heavy.
Kimber Montana owners are the only ones that care about ergonomics. We don't need no stinkin ergonomics.
_______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack
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Campfire Tracker
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Because they ain't making them anymore...
"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."
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Campfire Ranger
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Then I give you some real old chit I once banged. (Tell us she goes 'bang' more reliably than a Model 70 just to keep the thread on track.)
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Because you can get a 22Hornet or 243 in a LONG ACTION and have one all up under 11 pounds. Yeah...but they'll save you from charging rhinos upside down. I don't intend to charge any rhinos, but if I did, I would certainly do so in an upright position.
Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile.
Happily Trapped In the Past (Thanks, Joe)
Not only a less than minimally educated person, but stupid and out of touch as well.
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Campfire Outfitter
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Campfire Tracker
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Jack O'Connor had a few choice things to say about the post-'64 Winchesters, none of them good.
I'd rather be a free man in my grave, than living as a puppet or a slave....
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Campfire Tracker
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The hell with pre 64 rifles, I generally prefer pre-64 people.
Fight fire, save lives, laugh in the face of danger.
Stupid always finds a way.
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Campfire Tracker
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My dad had had one deer rifle got the past 40 years, A pre-64 featherweight. When I work the bolt, I can tell why I'd prefer one. Just smooth and solid st the same time. The only rifle I have that compares is a husqvarna made about the same time.
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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A Pre-64 vs a current rifle.
Mostly it's the feed lips on the action. How often do you encounter a pre-64 with feeding issues? Unless it's been mucked with, NEVER! Post 64, the feed lips are built into the magazine body (which is how everyone builds rifles these days).
The pre-64's are just uber-reliable, absolute foolproof reliable.
I think the pre-64 action was a degradation of the Mauser action IMO, but it's still a straight up world class rifle.
Regarding the stock...Ergonomically I like it very much, it feels great. But visually it's hideous.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Unless of course, it's from the Custom Shop
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Campfire Tracker
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Unless of course, it's from the Custom Shop Nice rifle, Jorge. What's the chambering?
Keep your gun-hand ready and your eyes peeled.
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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Unless of course, it's from the Custom Shop Evidence that the pre-64 is the best rifle out there to re-stock. Notice Jack O'Connor had Al Biesen re-stock most of his model 70's. I don't know if that's a Biesen, but it sure looks to be heavily influenced by Biesen. VERY nice Jorge.
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Campfire Regular
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Campfire Regular
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Because all the cool kids have one.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Winchester Custom Shop...
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Campfire Tracker
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Because the gun writers who couldn't think of anything else to write about, said so.
When truth is ignored, it does not change an untruth from remaining a lie.
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Campfire Ranger
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Campfire Ranger
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I will say, however, I do have a SC M70 Super Grade, that I recently bought from a relative. That's a slick rifle, well finished, and buttery smooth action.
"...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."
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Campfire Ranger
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