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Pat, as a citizen stepping out of your profession, do the interdiction things bother you. When i get stopped for the registration inspections in a car, it pisses me off. It may be interdiction and I am not seeing that. If so that is better, in my eyes, but if they're looking to fine me for paperwork that is wrong. Not trying to argue but it is hard to balance making your job easier, which should benefit all, with a cop screwing with me. Have spent years driving trucks, those rules are different. They don't bother me, just part of the job


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Pat, as a citizen stepping out of your profession, do the interdiction things bother you.


Not if it's done right, by professionals with the right knowledge and intent. As with everything else in police work, that is often not the case. There are plenty people wearing a badge that, for a plethora of reasons, shouldn't be. There are also a lot of young LEOs that just have a lot to learn. I don't see that ever changing.


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I've made some pretty stupid stops in the wee hours of the morning.
-No license plate light
-Failed to signal within 100' of a lane change
-Failed to stop at the designated stop line for a stop sign

So far, 100% of the time when I've said...."That's what I stopped you for, but really I'm just looking for drunks and bad guys. You're not either of those, so drive safe and have a nice evening.".....people have gone from pissed off to happy immediately.

But some cops have terrible people skills, or they're stressed out about money, or they're tired from being up all day with sick kids, or they're in a bad mood because they're always reading articles about "I can't breathe" in the news and on the Fire. So they don't bother explaining anything at all.


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I would love to have you stop me and have me do a field sobriety test. Because of a back injury I am often not sure exactly where my left leg is and even if I do it does not listen to me all the time. Then there is the Meniere's disease which causes vertigo and cerebellar gait. There is no way I could pass. smile

Not much chance of that happening since for the safety of everyone on the road I quit driving.


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Thanks for the response guy. We all tend to focus on the bad and not remember the good one cop having a bad day or with a bad attitude and we judge them all. As a long haul truck driver I "met" a few cops. Most were fair to good encounters and I deserved many more fines than I got. Only one was unfair, as I told the cop, although I admitted I was breaking the law. Still paid a fine.https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/default/tongue.gif


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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I'm curious on a search with PC, is a car destroyed as in seats cut open or anything like that, or is it just contents emptied next to the highway?
And thank you very much for answering my questions, I appreciate it.



No problem, shared expertise is what brings most people to the 'fire. "Probably cause" is just that. Cause the would make a reasonable police officer (not person) believe that something is/has occurred. If I have PC to believe you have a stolen TV in you vehicle, I can't look in the glove compartment for it. On the other hand, if the PC is for something small, you can look anywhere it may be contained. We don't make a habit of damaging things unless we know we have to.



So you always have reason to believe every vehicle is hiding something small unless they are driven by a police officer. Cool.


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Go away maggot.


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Seems an awful lot of LE, here, are willing to intrude on our personal lives and give away our rights. Never would I give permission to search.



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Originally Posted by pal
Seems an awful lot of LE, here, are willing to intrude on our personal lives and give away our rights. Never would I give permission to search.



If you're a criminal, I'll be more than happy to intrude on your personal life...take your rights away too.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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Seems an awful lot of LE, here, are willing to intrude on our personal lives and give away our rights. Never would I give permission to search.



If you're a criminal, I'll be more than happy to intrude on your personal life...take your rights away too.


And even if he isn't committing a crime you can still remove his valuables via civil asset forfeiture and be happy about that too.


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And even if he isn't committing a crime you can still remove his valuables via civil asset forfeiture and be happy about that too.


Everyone goes home happy.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by pal
Seems an awful lot of LE, here, are willing to intrude on our personal lives and give away our rights. Never would I give permission to search.



If you're a criminal, I'll be more than happy to intrude on your personal life...take your rights away too.


I willing to bet even if I'm not a criminal and holier than the Pope you would still be willing to do that.


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Please don't quote the [bleep]. Quotes are the only way I can see his crap.

OOPS got a BLEEP, The word was a$$hole.

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Originally Posted by derby_dude
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Seems an awful lot of LE, here, are willing to intrude on our personal lives and give away our rights. Never would I give permission to search.



If you're a criminal, I'll be more than happy to intrude on your personal life...take your rights away too.


I willing to bet even if I'm not a criminal and holier than the Pope you would still be willing to do that.


I doubt it. Mental commitments are a PITA.


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What constitutes a criminal?

And don't say someone who breaks the law. There are so many laws out there that everyone one of us breaks dozens of laws every day including the police. By the very nature of the beast we are a lawless society. So back to my original question what constitutes a criminal?


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Ask Gus. I'm too tired.


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Originally Posted by derby_dude
What constitutes a criminal?

And don't say someone who breaks the law.


To a criminal, everyone else is a criminal, too.

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Ask Gus. I'm too tired.

Why so tired? Have you been drinking? Where are you coming from?
Maybe we should have a look at what is in your car,you don't mind, do you?

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Originally Posted by Backroads
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Ask Gus. I'm too tired.

Why so tired? Have you been drinking? Where are you coming from?
Maybe we should have a look at what is in your car,you don't mind, do you?


He's a police lieutenant yes he does mind and no you can't.


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