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I've been following this case. Any thoughts on the verdict? Girlfriend's statements to a neighbor that they were gonna try and catch a burglar themselves (cause the cops weren't taking neighborhood burglaries seriously) must have been very damning. Prosecution claimed the deliberately left the garage door open with a purse inside to set up and opportunity to use deadly force. Watching the news coverage, one thing that was overwhelmingly obvious: the Missoulian was sure doing alot of heavy lifting for the prosecution in their coverage of this case.
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In my opinion this situation was no more 'self-defense', than shooting deer over feeders is 'hunting'.
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I really do not know all the details but if what I have read it true, and that is a big if, then shooting hand feed deer in a 10' by 3' cage might just be called hunting in comparison.
They bragged about the then bated a trap. That is not self defence in my book.
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It's Missoula so who knows how it will go. He's been tried and convicted in the papers.
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In my opinion this situation was no more 'self-defense', than shooting deer over feeders is 'hunting'. The SOB murdered that German kid...
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In my opinion this situation was no more 'self-defense', than shooting deer over feeders is 'hunting'. Good analogy...
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found guilty of deliberate homicide today
Guns don't kill people, drivers with cell phones kill people.
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Yep, only police are allowed to engage in entrapment without suffering a penalty.
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Yep, only police are allowed to engage in entrapment without suffering a penalty. It wasn't the entrapment, it was the murder that happened along with it.
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It's Missoula so who knows how it will go. He's been tried and convicted in the papers. Yeah. There was absolutely no question what outcome the Missoulian wanted.
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found guilty of deliberate homicide today and the school kids that take part in "garage hoping" had best learn from this. What they have been doing is against the law but killing one of them is going way too far. This guy is a jerk and needs to spend the rest of his life in the pen. We shall see.
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Looks like murder to me.
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It is - and that's not right. Stay the he!! off my place if you have poor intentions!
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Weird how Kaarma forced that kid to steal from him.
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Yep, only police are allowed to engage in entrapment without suffering a penalty. It wasn't the entrapment, it was the murder that happened along with it. Police doing entrapment that resulted in the death of the subject would simply be self defense or at worst an accident. If there was anything wrong with police engaging in entrapment they would be arrested for kidnapping after it was determined that was what happened.
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It is - and that's not right. Stay the he!! off my place if you have poor intentions! You really see the need to murder somebody that is trying to steal from you? Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Police doing entrapment that resulted in the death of the subject would simply be self defense or at worst an accident. If there was anything wrong with police engaging in entrapment they would be arrested for kidnapping after it was determined that was what happened.
Your ability to cram Bluedreaux's AND ltpowell's dick into your mouth, at the same time, is uncanny. You should jump out of the unemployment line and look into the porn industry. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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It is - and that's not right. Stay the he!! off my place if you have poor intentions! You really see the need to murder somebody that is trying to steal from you? Travis If they break and enter and are stealing, I will defend my home and possessions. I don't consider it murder. In any form or fashion. I won't bait a lawbreaker into committing a crime so I can shoot him though. If they get shot at my place, it will be of their own volition, and due to their poor choices.
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I don't know what happened in the case exactly. But I don't know what baiting has to do with it.
Shooting for theft is either justifiable or not. The circumstances of the thefted property are irrelevant to me.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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You break into someone else's property with the intent to rob them you should be ready to pay the reaper.
Pretty simple, don't be break into other people's property and try to steal their schit or you might get shot for being a POS thief.
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