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I'm thinking there will eventually be a plea deal with him getting life without parole. Boston bomber will do the same deal.
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Hell yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yes, if he is sane, he'll dread it and weep as his life fades. And, if he is insane, then he won't realize that he won't be home for breakfast the next day.
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Absolutely. Execute him, and soon
The cost SHOULD BE one bullet. When execution costs run into seven-figure, we've lost our way.
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Steve, electricity (or a bullet) is cheap, but it takes a dozen years of so for the legal system to play out. All the appeals are both expensive and lengthy; I didn't make the rules (as for the appeals process), but the Supreme Court has accepted the whole process. If someone doesn't like it, they can change the law. As for the cost, consider the long term incarceration in special, isolated facilities (death row), the few (maybe a dozen or less) prisoners, requiring close individual guarding (24/7) by a high guard/prisoner ration, etc. Additionally, death cases require expensive legal representation, which is expensive. As I said, the whole death penalty issue is an expensive proposition and since taxpayer money is in short supply and there are other needs (education, infrastructure, etc.), as long as the guilty will never see the outside again, why not save money and just keep him (or her) confined for life. I would keep them segregated from the general population and not allow them the "comforts" of prison life, but save the money for the outside world.
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The death penalty is easily summed up. If you kill someone, you should die if it was planned or outright murder. Accidents are a different animal. We wont get into that here.
But murder gets you dead. It should anyway. 30 days to get your head where you want it, and set your affairs in order. Then, BANG! No life in prison and no seven figure costs. No botching the execution would be easy enough, bring several bullets.
This concept drives home the point to people that it is NOT ok to be out murdering. You WILL die if you murder. Trial will occur as per our legal system, but once it is over, you might get an appeal, but if convicted, BANG!
Why make it any harder than it has to be?
Should the parents of the recently executed feel bad? Yes, because they love their child. Ok, but your adult child committed a murder. As such, he must pay the price for his crime. Does that make an executioner a bad person? No, just a person doing their job.
The parents of the victims of the murder are in pain. The parents of the murderer are also in pain that their child did this. Unfortunately, they get more pain after he is killed. Facts of life.
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He said he would welcome an agreement that imprisons Holmes for life and did not see how a possible death penalty would �bring peace to anybody, whether it's justice or not.� I wont bring peace it'll bring closure. KILL HIM!!!!!! Let Holmes' parents know what the other 12 parents feel like! Why the urge to punish his parents, did they drive him to the theater? Did the other 12 drive their kids? Does either one of those statements matter? What matters is he MURDERED 12 people,A life for a life! My statement was made because of his parents pleading over his case. He had mental illness, institutionalize him!!
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yes, publicly... before any other nutcases get any ideas.
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Yes, and should take place before years end.
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It is for the jury to decode after they hear the facts.
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Well put Holmes aside for the moment, I don't think any of us would argue he is out of his gourde, do we execute the insane and mentally ill in this country? Do we execute the soldier who comes home messed up out of his mind and kills somebody? It's a tough call, always will be a tough call. I hope the Death Penalty is always a tough call for every jury deciding on it I agree, who wants a blanket execution for the vet who shot Chris Kyle, what do we know about his troubles? Obviously that boy wasn't right in the head to shoot a fellow solider trying to help him through a hard time. Can't say, but I wonder what the odds of that guy shooting somebody was before he went overseas?
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He said he would welcome an agreement that imprisons Holmes for life and did not see how a possible death penalty would �bring peace to anybody, whether it's justice or not.� I wont bring peace it'll bring closure. KILL HIM!!!!!! Let Holmes' parents know what the other 12 parents feel like! Why the urge to punish his parents, did they drive him to the theater? Did the other 12 drive their kids? Does either one of those statements matter? What matters is he MURDERED 12 people,A life for a life! My statement was made because of his parents pleading over his case. He had mental illness, institutionalize him!! So, was he mentally deranged, would you beg for your son? Have you ever tried to institutionalize somebody over the age of 18? If you have, and you succeeded, my hats off to you.
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I'd like for him to be killed. Ideally, the victims and their families should have a crack at him.
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Shove a bayonet through his chest and be done with it.
They can rinse off the bayonet and reuse it on another deserving PoS.
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Give him the needle. Too bad they don't use the chair anymore.
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Well put Holmes aside for the moment, I don't think any of us would argue he is out of his gourde, do we execute the insane and mentally ill in this country? Do we execute the soldier who comes home messed up out of his mind and kills somebody? It's a tough call, always will be a tough call. I hope the Death Penalty is always a tough call for every jury deciding on it I agree, who wants a blanket execution for the vet who shot Chris Kyle, what do we know about his troubles? Obviously that boy wasn't right in the head to shoot a fellow solider trying to help him through a hard time. Can't say, but I wonder what the odds of that guy shooting somebody was before he went overseas? Un-friggin'-real. The PRK is truly a jacked up place.
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He worked for Obama's re-election, now he's insane or was he then?
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If it's broke send it back to the factory! That POS destroyed several lives so I have no issue with removing his ability to breathe.
Our Criminal Justice system looks at things different when it comes people who are clinically proven to be "insane" and it is a Legal Defense that can be used.
Both "temporary insanity" or "insanity" are used in the court of law. Reason stands that insane people are unable to understand their actions therefore are not accountable for their actions. Society cannot punish them by putting them into prison but cannot leave them in society.
They are removed from society (psyche hospital) usually for their lifetime. Some however do rehabilitate and reintegrate into society?
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