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Great thread with lots of good info for those who will listen and learn instead of argue. Those who provided good info know who they are and what works. Those who argue and call others names and insult others might not know who they are but the rest of the readers do.
The good is worth the BS if you do not lower yourself to the muck at the bottom of the pile.
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It is indeed "the same old 'fire".
A poster that 100% knows better posts a step by step guide on how to over pressure a rifle and the person that calls him on it is branded a "meaner". Not one person will come forward and say that what John posted in his original post is safe - including John. Instead we're supposed to "know what he meant".
Please, someone, anyone, step up! Point out to me the error of my ways! Explain to me why it's safe to load pressure loads and starting walking seating depths out w/o first checking MAX COAL.
Anybody?
Somebody show me where John ever said that's not safe and recanted his original post.
Anybody?
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Clearly, but the question(s) still stand.... David
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It is indeed "the same old 'fire".
A poster that 100% knows better posts a step by step guide on how to over pressure a rifle and the person that calls him on it is branded a "meaner". Not one person will come forward and say that what John posted in his original post is safe - including John. Instead we're supposed to "know what he meant".
Please, someone, anyone, step up! Point out to me the error of my ways! Explain to me why it's safe to load pressure loads and starting walking seating depths out w/o first checking MAX COAL.
Anybody?
Somebody show me where John ever said that's not safe and recanted his original post.
Anybody?
David David, Just an observation. Your error was simply being a dick about it.... Nothing else has mattered since. Nothing.
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Please, someone, anyone, step up! Point out to me the error of my ways!
David
The error is not "Respectfully" disagreeing. Its not anything that I haven't done a time or three or many others. The longer you're around here though you tend to learn to not get to excited and just trust that the folks learning will have to have there own responsibility to educate themselves on safe loading practices. Its all good my friend.  Don't worry so much about it and hang out and just have fun. In the end everyone does learn a lot of very useful information here on the fire. Shod
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It is indeed "the same old 'fire".
A poster that 100% knows better posts a step by step guide on how to over pressure a rifle and the person that calls him on it is branded a "meaner". Not one person will come forward and say that what John posted in his original post is safe - including John. Instead we're supposed to "know what he meant".
Please, someone, anyone, step up! Point out to me the error of my ways! Explain to me why it's safe to load pressure loads and starting walking seating depths out w/o first checking MAX COAL.
Anybody?
Somebody show me where John ever said that's not safe and recanted his original post.
Anybody?
David David, Just an observation. Your error was simply being a dick about it.... Nothing else has mattered since. Nothing. Wow! Tell the truth now - you're really a woman aren't you? David
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Please, someone, anyone, step up! Point out to me the error of my ways!
David
The error is not "Respectfully" disagreeing. Its not anything that I haven't done a time or three or many others. The longer you're around here though you tend to learn to not get to excited and just trust that the folks learning will have to have there own responsibility to educate themselves on safe loading practices. Its all good my friend. Don't worry so much about it and hang out and just have fun. In the end everyone does learn a lot of very useful information here on the fire. Shod Shod, I'm truly not upset about any of it - I'm not the moron trying to teach people how to overpressure their rifles. That guy has quit talking to me - twice.... David
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It is indeed "the same old 'fire".
A poster that 100% knows better posts a step by step guide on how to over pressure a rifle and the person that calls him on it is branded a "meaner". Not one person will come forward and say that what John posted in his original post is safe - including John. Instead we're supposed to "know what he meant".
Please, someone, anyone, step up! Point out to me the error of my ways! Explain to me why it's safe to load pressure loads and starting walking seating depths out w/o first checking MAX COAL.
Anybody?
Somebody show me where John ever said that's not safe and recanted his original post.
Anybody?
David David, Just an observation. Your error was simply being a dick about it.... Nothing else has mattered since. Nothing. Wow! Tell the truth now - you're really a woman aren't you? David That's your deal? Being a dick? Have fun.
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!"
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Please, someone, anyone, step up! Point out to me the error of my ways!
David
The error is not "Respectfully" disagreeing. Its not anything that I haven't done a time or three or many others. The longer you're around here though you tend to learn to not get to excited and just trust that the folks learning will have to have there own responsibility to educate themselves on safe loading practices. Its all good my friend. Don't worry so much about it and hang out and just have fun. In the end everyone does learn a lot of very useful information here on the fire. Shod Shod, I'm truly not upset about any of it - I'm not the moron trying to teach people how to overpressure their rifles. That guy has quit talking to me - twice.... David John actually contributes a very large amount of useful information around here. Do I agree with him on every statement he's ever made. No! However, resorting to calling folks degrading names simply is not a good way to express disagreement. You have 2 choices You can choose to disagree in a positive way. Or you can choose to disagree in a negative way. When ones choose to do it in a negative manner it effect everyone and it shouldn't come as any surprise when folks express disaprooval. I know because I've done exactly what you are doing. All I'm saying friend is there's a better way. You can either take the advice or leave it. The choice is yours Shod
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Go to wood's first post on page 2 of this longrangehunting.com thread where he details The Cleaning Rod Method
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Well after all of this I have settled on the 'cleaning rod method' and the split case, seat the bullet to the lands and measure it. (Same as I have done for the last 10 years). I use them both to verify. It's been an interesting thread and thanks to those who posted useful information.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
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