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1st, a shout out to crossfire for the pm's contributing to my knowledge on the topics of rollers and loading. I can't express how good advice saves time, trial, and error. Same for DigDan. On his links, I have done a hammer cas of this swede in 8 mm Danish in hopes of evaluating bullet, powder, paper patch(?) better. Here it is:
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The near inch from the case ledge to the final rifled dimension is a hell of a gap. Almost half inch free.
And the case length is longer than saami by a bit.
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Help me out interpreting the 2 dims. that are "stacked"
Case Mouth ID and at the end of the freebore.
What exactly are we looking at there ?
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Looking more and more like a great candidate for a rebore/rebarrel.
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The first set of stacks, 368 is the chamber neck diameter and 350 is the start of the bore.
The second set reflects bore/groove
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Looking more and more like a great candidate for a rebore/rebarrel. No. If for no other reason than to prove you in error.
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Looking more and more like a great candidate for a rebore/rebarrel. No. If for no other reason than to prove you in error. Yes, I know, which makes the eventual all the more sweet.
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I'll get it shooting if if have to lube the bullets with virgin pixie blood.
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You dwarves could probably arrange that.
Not saying it won't shoot. Just that it's shoot better, longer, further, and more efficiently and effectively rebored or re-barreled to .45" and on a -70, -90, or -110 case. You know this to be true as well.
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The second set reflects bore/groove Jeez,... That seems awful shallow Do you have the Bore / Groove Dims at the muzzle ? GTC
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The second set reflects bore/groove Jeez,... That seems awful shallow Do you have the Bore / Groove Dims at the muzzle ? GTC Should read .323/.310 . That's at the muzzle as well
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So, what degree error in measurement was that?
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OK,...that sounds more typical. That big old freebore is going to be tough to work around, a .3245" slug being about the top end for a softer alloy greaser. Head scratchin' here.... GTC
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What's the neck thickness on the brass ?
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Neck thickness on the resized 45-70 brass is 0.010
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Well, scratchin' around a bit,.... I'm coming up with .0235" of "Rattle" in a FF, unsized case, and a properly sized CB.
...that throat's a problem, Se�or.
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Better off to form cases from either the 762x54, or the 8mm Hungarian rimmed and other variants.
the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to. www.historicshooting.com
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Well, scratchin' around a bit,.... I'm coming up with .0235" of "Rattle" in a FF, unsized case, and a properly sized CB.
...that throat's a problem, Se�or.
GTC He knows there's a fix to that, too, and a good one.
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Better off to form cases from either the 762x54, or the 8mm Hungarian rimmed and other variants. Reminds me of that really fine old Stier Kropatschek I had years ago, ...same kind of military chamber weirdness. Yeah, I finally got the thing shooting reasonably well, but can also advise that 8MM is NOT a very practical BP bore size. The fella' that traded me out of that old pelter was going to build a .45-90 on it. This particular Swede ? Given the softness of alloy that's gonna' be required to get the slug bumped up and than swadged back down, I don't want to even THINK about trying to run smokeless. GTC
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He is starting to see the light.
It appears the barrel is too skinny to rebore to .458".
Any recommendations as to what might be a good rebore keeping with a BP cartridge that would clean up that chamber?
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