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I have a CZ 550 American with the walnut stock and am thinking of having it slimmed down a bit. There is too much wood for my liking and smaller hands, starts around the front of the action and continues through the cheekpiece. I really don't think it needs to lose anything right in the rear of the stock by the buttpad just action through back of cheekpiece if it can be done without looking too odd, I may even consider having the cheekpiece removed to clean the gun up a bit. Wondering if this is feasible and cost effective or if I would be better off having a new stock made? Would cost of reshape, rechecker pistol grip and refinish be as much as a whole new restock? Just thinking here so don't bust my chops too hard.
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I've found that the CZ often had above average wood hidden under that finish. You can get everything done to your wood far less than building a new one.
Basic wood will cost you $50-100. Shaping is $125-175. Fitting, finish and checker $400 up with the focus on up. If I was going to the expense to build a new stock I wouldn't use cheap wood so in my book add another few $100 to the blank.
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This factory stock has a nice figure and finish but am wanting to put the stock on a diet, just needs trimmed up a bit and of course recheckering afterwards. Looking for any advice I can get, maybe even suggestions on who to use or at least a few names so I can check out their work and contact them directly for advice and recommendations they may have.
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Too much wood is a blessing and easily handled with a little patience. Too little is where it gets expensive.
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Since it appears Karnis doesn't post here anymore could someone PM me his contact info?
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These folks make a specialty of upgrading the 550. http://americanhuntingrifles.com/?page_id=221No first hand experience but the photos look like very nice work. It is not difficult to do yourself but I wouldn't start with a fine rifle.
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These folks make a specialty of upgrading the 550. http://americanhuntingrifles.com/?page_id=221Wayne at AHR does one heck of a job. You would need to check with him to see if he works over a factory stock. I've see his Grade 3 upgrade and the wood is first class
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These folks make a specialty of upgrading the 550. http://americanhuntingrifles.com/?page_id=221Wayne at AHR does one heck of a job. You would need to check with him to see if he works over a factory stock. I've see his Grade 3 upgrade and the wood is first class Going to contact them to see if they work on factory wood. Looks like they do some top notch work for sure.
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Wood working is easy. Just take off everything that doesn't look right. The expense to have someone else do it is in the time it takes. All you need to do it yourself is time, patience, a good eye, a rasp, mabe a rat-tail file, various grades of sandpaper and finish. It isn't hard and is highly satisfying - just think through it before you start and all the way thru. Checkering, however is a pita.
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Wood working is easy. Just take off everything that doesn't look right. The expense to have someone else do it is in the time it takes. All you need to do it yourself is time, patience, a good eye, a rasp, mabe a rat-tail file, various grades of sandpaper and finish. It isn't hard and is highly satisfying - just think through it before you start and all the way thru. Checkering, however is a pita. I have actually thought about doing the shaping myself and save my money to have someone else do a more elaborate checkering pattern. I have done a bit of woodwork, built an 8 gun oak cabinet and did finish an inletted stock for my smokepole to name a couple of projects. Just a bit leary of setting in on this thing although I am certain if I take my time I can do it just fine but I also know one bad move and the cost is going to run right through the roof.
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Another option is to have someone that does stock duplication mill it down using a slimmer pattern stock on the duplicator. This will take a special set up unless the pattern is a really good match.
This will insure the right proportions are maintained.
But if you have done cabinetry and finishing you should have no problem.
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Yes, get on it yourself. A couple rasps, chain saw files, sandpaper and some sanding blocks and one can shave things down to exactly what he wants. A well padded vice and some good lighting is also helpful. Unless one has some precise dimensions written down, it's tough for a professional to generate what one might be expecting anyway.
A little reading on stock making might help too. Most stocks are simply a blending of several flats and the meshing of a few angles. Just go slow and never work against the grain. I've got a chubby Marlin Guide Gun that needs some of the same treatment.
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I was talking to Wayne at AHR this morning about something else. I asked him if he fooled with factory CZ stocks and he said only cutting the off to install pads, LOP change etc. Not a reshape.
As to setting it on a duplicator to only cut the outside. That is a ROYAL PAIN. If it isn't perfect it is firewood.
Had customer send me one that had been drilled for the action screws by someone thinking about doing the inletting by hand. Took an extra 30-45mintues to get it set up to perfectly match the pattern. Not something I care to do everyday.
Do it yourself. Just go slow and leave the power tools alone.
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Go for it as all you can lose is a stock that you do not like! You can always get a new stock. I have a Zastava mod 70 LH to do the same thing too. Good Luck and Have Fun with your project. Clint
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I'd contact Roger Ferrell in Fayetteville, Georgia he is a Member of the www.acgg.org and has done exactly what you desire for other customers. Mike Roger Ferrell Roger's Gun Works, Inc. Fayetteville GA (770) 460-0533
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Greetings 10gaugemag, I had similar concerns regarding my CZ 550 chambered in .416 Rigby. I shipped my rifle to Triple River Gunsmithing. As per their website "Triple River Gunsmithing has been building Safari Classic Rifles for CZ-USA since 2004 in 338 Lapua, 404 Jeffery, .450 Rigby, .500 Jeffery, .505 Gibbs and other safari calibers." Harlan and his team reworked, re-checkered, and refinished the stock. In addition, they added a grip cap and ebony forend. Upon receipt of my rifle, I was amazed at the quality of their work! Cheers and good luck!
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