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What is a reasonable price for a 500 brick of 22 ammo?

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No one knows what is reasonable, but they can sure tell you what isn't...

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What is a reasonable price for a 500 brick of 22 ammo?


Buying or selling? Apparently there is a huge difference.

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well, Midway has 500 round bricks of CCI std velocity for $39.99, available in stock, as of this moment. And 11 types of Eley and RWS match ammo in stock.

I've managed to pick up 2-3 bricks of CCI high velocity ammo at similar prices in the past few weeks, and I now have plenty for my needs.

I've noticed many of the big retailers have started putting out ammo in the middle of the day, on weekends, so people with jobs actually have a chance to buy it. smirk


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I've noticed many of the big retailers have started putting out ammo in the middle of the day, on weekends, so people with jobs actually have a chance to buy it.
Sportsmans Warehouse here has been doing that since last fall. Then they open at 9am on Saturday, everything they have for ammo and reloading is out on the shelf. Nothing else will appear until the next Saturday. You don't have to keep checking back but the line can be pretty long on Saturday morning.


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i can find the 525 box of fed champions at wally world for $24.99 when i get lucky. the 225 of goldens is $11.99. but it is still real scarce, but not as scarce as its been.


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Originally Posted by setch
What is a reasonable price for a 500 brick of 22 ammo?



$20.00. The sky high prices we are seeing right now, will go down eventually. Scalpers still trying to do their thing and hoarders still emptying the shelves. They will get their fill, but it's up to us to not give in and pay the high prices. I'm still seeing bricks in the stores (on occasion) for $19.97-$24.00


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The whole thing makes me uneasy. I believe in capitalism. But have never been one to be a "dealer". Just sold a friend 92 hornady 154 spire point 7mms. The sticker on the box, 1988, was $8.75. We called it $9 and I insisted he look them over because they had gotten dark, not green, over the last 26 years. I know what they cost new but feel charging based on that, to get rid of my stash, is gouging. We all have different standards on different topics.


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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
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What is a reasonable price for a 500 brick of 22 ammo?



$20.00. The sky high prices we are seeing right now, will go down eventually. Scalpers still trying to do their thing and hoarders still emptying the shelves. They will get their fill, but it's up to us to not give in and pay the high prices. I'm still seeing bricks in the stores (on occasion) for $19.97-$24.00


I paid $24 for a brick of 500 and was simply curious if it was inflated. It was simply the cheapest I had seen it.

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Originally Posted by setch
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What is a reasonable price for a 500 brick of 22 ammo?



$20.00. The sky high prices we are seeing right now, will go down eventually. Scalpers still trying to do their thing and hoarders still emptying the shelves. They will get their fill, but it's up to us to not give in and pay the high prices. I'm still seeing bricks in the stores (on occasion) for $19.97-$24.00


I paid $24 for a brick of 500 and was simply curious if it was inflated. It was simply the cheapest I had seen it.


Probably at a Cabela's. I also paid that much for a brick of Federal/American eagles (400 rounds) at Cabela's a couple months ago. Generally around here the local bi-mart and wallyworld, you'll see bricks selling for $19.97. That is the cheaper Remington golden bullet ammo though (525 value pack).. The federal bulk ammo is about the same price... I also bought some Federal automatch at our LGS for $19.00 a couple weeks ago, but they are a 325 round count.


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I was at a SW yesterday about 10am. The clerk had 3 bricks of different types of 22LR that he was putting on the shelf for $23.99 each. My brother grabbed one, I took one and another customer grabbed the other before the clerk could walk away. It doesn't sit long.


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I paid $23 for a brink of 300---CCI A/R solids. I was happy to get them. Limit of 4. It was a $100 bill with sales tax.

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Everyone wants to buy them but is anyone actually shooting them?


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I bought three 500 rd. bricks of mini mags last week for 40.00 a brick. Also bought three 225 packs of golden bullets for 11.99 each. Was at a gun show today and everything was still 70-80.00 a brick. I guess the greedy bastards don't want to admit the shortage is over and there has been ammo on dealer shelves at normal prices pretty regularly for the past couple months.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Everyone wants to buy them but is anyone actually shooting them?
I burned up 500 in the last couple weeks. Finding more on dealer shelves every week and have 6,000 on hand so no worries shooting some up.

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I hope this madness soon stops. Will run out of 22 that was bought before this mess. Next summer might get tight. Have a pile of 22 bullets sitting around, might have to spent more time with the bigger 22's.


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Originally Posted by Blacktailer
I was at a SW yesterday about 10am. The clerk had 3 bricks of different types of 22LR that he was putting on the shelf for $23.99 each. My brother grabbed one, I took one and another customer grabbed the other before the clerk could walk away. It doesn't sit long.


It sure doesn't. That will eventually get better. When I was at my LGS and they had a bunch of the federal automatch on the shelves. They asked If I needed any and I said, no I'll let them sit for a day so someone else that really needs them has a chance to buy them. I went in a day later and they still had about 10 bricks left and I bought 1 box since my 10-22 and Ruger MK1 and MKII pistols love them... I rarely shoot my 22's, as I find them extremely boring. Shot dump truck loads of 22lr as a kid. Big kid guns are more appealing now days... wink


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Originally Posted by Blackheart
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Everyone wants to buy them but is anyone actually shooting them?
I burned up 500 in the last couple weeks. Finding more on dealer shelves every week and have 6,000 on hand so no worries shooting some up.


I'm still shooting about 500 a month. I have kids, mine and others, to teach. Even if I have to buy to replenish the stash, it'll be worth it.


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The whole thing makes me uneasy. I believe in capitalism. But have never been one to be a "dealer". Just sold a friend 92 hornady 154 spire point 7mms. The sticker on the box, 1988, was $8.75. We called it $9 and I insisted he look them over because they had gotten dark, not green, over the last 26 years. I know what they cost new but feel charging based on that, to get rid of my stash, is gouging. We all have different standards on different topics.


In my opinion there is no such thing as price gouging in free-will transactions. Someone holds a gun to your head and says οΏ½Pay this, or else I shootοΏ½, thatοΏ½s a different story.

At the end of the day, all free-will transactions occur because buyer and seller reach a mutually agreeable price based on how they each value the item in question. IοΏ½ve seen people pay $75 and more for a brick of 500 .22οΏ½s and be happy In one case it was because it meant father and son could go small game hunting versus not.

At the same time IοΏ½ve seen people complain bitterly about the same price. What they are really bitching about is that the seller wonοΏ½t sell for the buyerοΏ½s price. The fact is that higher prices help ensure at least some supply. Even through the drought of the last couple years, bricks of .22 ammo have been available at the gunshows and elsewhere.





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In my opinion there is no such thing as price gouging in free-will transactions. Someone holds a gun to your head and says οΏ½Pay this, or else I shootοΏ½, thatοΏ½s a different story.


I have a little different view, as I have seen one man and his buddies buy all of a shipment, all paid out of one bill fold, while there was a 3 box limit. You may like azz holes but I don't. I did start showing up early enough to be first in line and just bought my 3 boxes, but I still did not like it when he got all the rest and left people standing without. I never sold any but I have given several boxes away. miles


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Paid $23.something at Wally's several weeks ago for a 525 Federal box.

I did see the same boxes at our indoor shooting range for $69.95 - used that pricing to justify a decision to never return to that range. That and $25/hour range time made my decision pretty easy.

I've all but stopped shooting 22 LR and shot much more centerfire ammo.

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In my opinion there is no such thing as price gouging in free-will transactions. Someone holds a gun to your head and says οΏ½Pay this, or else I shootοΏ½, thatοΏ½s a different story.


I have a little different view, as I have seen one man and his buddies buy all of a shipment, all paid out of one bill fold, while there was a 3 box limit. You may like azz holes but I don't. I did start showing up early enough to be first in line and just bought my 3 boxes, but I still did not like it when he got all the rest and left people standing without. I never sold any but I have given several boxes away. miles


So where is the price gouging in the events you relate? All I see is store people not adhering to their own arbitrary rules, which they are free to change or ignore, and a customer taking advantage of the fact that the store people did so. Selfish on the part of the customer, stupid behavior perhaps (poor customer relations) on the part of the store, but no gouging.





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So where is the price gouging in the events you relate?


I am pretty sure that he was not shooting all of that ammo. What do you think he was doing? miles

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Price gouging

Price gouging is a pejorative term referring to a situation in which a seller prices goods or commodities at a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair. This rapid increase in prices occurs after a demand or supply shock: examples include price increases after hurricanes or other natural disasters.

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Originally Posted by setch
What is a reasonable price for a 500 brick of 22 ammo?


Depends on the ammo.

The stuff I like (CCI mini mag HP) is about $35-$36 for 500. I'm ok with that product at that price.

I wouldn't spend that for bulk packs. I wouldn't spend that for solids.

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So where is the price gouging in the events you relate?


I am pretty sure that he was not shooting all of that ammo. What do you think he was doing? miles

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Price gouging

Price gouging is a pejorative term referring to a situation in which a seller prices goods or commodities at a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair. This rapid increase in prices occurs after a demand or supply shock: examples include price increases after hurricanes or other natural disasters.


οΏ½at a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fairοΏ½ οΏ½ by the prospective buyers.

I understand the term just fine, I just disagree with the concept. If the buyer feels the price for an item is too high, let him buy the same item for less elsewhere οΏ½ if he can.

And it doesnοΏ½t matter what the buyer intended to do with it, there was no οΏ½price gougingοΏ½ going on in your narrative.

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Originally Posted by setch
What is a reasonable price for a 500 brick of 22 ammo?


I would say that's a question best answered by the buyer.

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Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd
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What is a reasonable price for a 500 brick of 22 ammo?


I would say that's a question best answered by the buyer.


Both Buyer and Seller often have very different ideas of what constitutes a reasonable price.

Seller usually wants to recover costs and make a profit, Buyer often thinks a reasonable price is one at which the seller would take a loss. Neither is necessarily wrong from their unique points of view.

It is only when Buyer and Seller come to an agreement that a transaction can take place.


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Right. So the buyer, if he agrees, will buy; if he doesn't, he won't.

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I'm not sure the person with the question was looking for an answer from a Law School classroom on contracts. Prices been coming down a bit, but sure no more $5 a brick stuff out there. Man needs to look around, see what he wants ammo wise (top grade match ammo going to be more than Walmart bulk packs, but probably not necessar for shooting cans or squirrels).


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a year ago, I bought a carton of target ammo for $20. I see it reasonably priced at some dealers, but they are often out. The price you have to pay at a gun show is between $50 and $100 -- at least at the last gun show I've been too,


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Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

Right. So the buyer, if he agrees, will buy; if he doesn't, he won't.


Where a particular Buyer may not buy at a certain price set by Seller, there may be many more that will. Happens all the time.

The first Buyer thinks the price is unreasonable, the second thinks it is reasonable. Seller set the price, which didn't change. Which Buyer is right? Both. So is the Seller.


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I have a couple of cases of 22 target ammo but I can't find any good stuff anywhere. Glad I have what I do but I have been trying to buy Winchester hollowpoints for over 10 years and have never found them in stock in any of my suppliers.


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I gave a bulk box of 525 to a good friend in Colorado this past November for his 12 year old son to have some plinking ammo

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I agree. I haven't sold a box but I have given about 4 bricks away.


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I agree. I haven't sold a box but I have given about 4 bricks away.


I've done the same thing. Mostly to people that aren't really shooters, but like to hunt with a 22LR. They didn't have a clue that they wouldn't be able to just walk into a sporting goods store and buy a few boxes of ammo.

I'm sending 3 boxes of 250-3000 ammo to a cousin in Minnesota in the next day or so. He had no idea that it is, for all practical purposes, unavailable.


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One thing I've learned over the last few years and two separate ammo droughts is to stock up when you get the chance to do so at a reasonable price - even if you don't "need" any at that particular moment. The same is true for components.

Yesterday I picked up a couple boxes of Barnes TAC-XPD ammo (9mm and .45) because while my mags are full I've only a couple rounds left on my shelf. Wednesday it was a pound each of HS-6 and Longshot. Last weekend it was another 1,000 CCI 200 Large Rifle primers.

At the moment I feel pretty well stocked up with over 3600 .22 rounds including 500 Shorts, another 650 in .22 Win Mag, probably 15,000 primers, plenty of bullets and a lifetime supply of brass almost everything I shoot, plus lots of loaded ammo for my centerfires.

Still need brass, bullets and dies for my new .40S&W plus another 8lb jug of H4350. Might pick up the H4350 today if I can find some.





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Glad I checked again before leaving the house- I have plenty of H4350 but am low on H4831SC. A case of CRS.

Picked up two pounds each of H100V and AA1680, Also a 500-count brick of Armscor .22LR for $44 and change. All the other vendors were selling the same Armscor ammo for $60. Puts me up over 4,000 in .22 LR and Short. most purchased before the shortages. Finally feeling like shooting some. Put 50 rounds through my Ithaca Model 49 last weekend.


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Saw a lot of 555-count boxes of Winchester .22LR at the gun show in Loveland Saturday. Prices ranged from $45 to $60. Picked up one of the $45 boxes, which puts me at about 4500 rounds on the shelf.

Will definitely be stocking up more, as well as more powder, primers and bullets as prices continue their slow decline. The Sportsmans Warehouse in Loveland actually had 333-count packs of Winchester for $20 Saturday morning, the best price I've seen in a long time, but I got there too late. The good news is it's been a while since I've seen asking prices of $75 of more and even longer since $100 to $150 for a brick of 500.

Like a lot of folks I've weathered the shortages pretty well due to my stockpiles but I anticipate even more severe and longer shortages in the future.

Have to admit I've been seriously considering a bow or crossbow and a high-powered air rifle. The Chinese have a curse that goes "May you live in interesting times". Our federal government is inept and corrupt at the highest levels but history teaches us that things can get a lot worse. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they do. Having adequate supplies for a long period seems like a reasonable preparation.



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Runnings has 22 LR and 22 short HP for sale and on their shelves and the prices are less than $4 per 50


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