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Can't answer all of your questions...but I can answer one you did not ask. Will it give us an option to sending our money to countries like Saudi Arabia and the like? Yes
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only one thing matters with this pipeline issue. Do the elephants have enough votes in the Senate, to over ride obama? They need 67.......... That is not the only thing that matters with this pipeline issue. Him vetoing the bill...will become the thing that matters. Obummer's supporters will be pleased, his opponents will jump up and down pointing at him and yelling, "See what he did!".. Nothing will change. This is the stuff that wins primaries, not general elections.
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only one thing matters with this pipeline issue. Do the elephants have enough votes in the Senate, to over ride obama? They need 67.......... That is not the only thing that matters with this pipeline issue. Him vetoing the bill...will become the thing that matters. Obummer's supporters will be pleased, his opponents will jump up and down pointing at him and yelling, "See what he did!".. Nothing will change. This is the stuff that wins primaries, not general elections. One thing will have changed. Legislation will have passed the Senate. There are around 300 other pieces of legislation that the House has passed awaiting the same. If he must veto, let him veto twice a day for the rest of his term.
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I replace valve cover gaskets every 50K, if they don't need them sooner...
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Great. More political theater. Yea us!
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To get things done you then pressure dem congresscritters to over ride thats how to do it...
One man with courage makes a majority....
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Favorable legislation is passed by Congress.
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Great. More political theater. Yea us! Stay away from your firearms. You seem much too pessimistic about life at the moment. Hunting season bout over?
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Veto bait is passed by Congress. Fixed it for you..
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... expose himself for what he really is.....just a community organizer, nothing more, nothing less... and not a very good one at that. Alan
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Veto bait is passed by Congress. Fixed it for you.. You against huntin over bait?
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By Elana Schor The House voted Friday to approve the Keystone XL pipeline, seizing on the momentum from a Nebraska Supreme Court ruling hours earlier that removed the last major legal obstacle to building the politically charged oil project. Now the action moves to the Senate, which will take up its version of the Keystone bill next week. Taken together, the vote on the Hill and the court decision will put the issue squarely in the hands of President Barack Obama, who has put off making a decision on the Canada-to-U.S. oil artery during his six years in the White House ...with 266 House members voting to approve the project, including 28 Democrats. Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/...stone-pipeline-114114.html#ixzz3ONJntXz1 meanwhile at the White House, in the oval office.. the general consensus is "SO WHAT???"
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By Elana Schor The House voted Friday to approve the Keystone XL pipeline, seizing on the momentum from a Nebraska Supreme Court ruling hours earlier that removed the last major legal obstacle to building the politically charged oil project. Now the action moves to the Senate, which will take up its version of the Keystone bill next week. Taken together, the vote on the Hill and the court decision will put the issue squarely in the hands of President Barack Obama, who has put off making a decision on the Canada-to-U.S. oil artery during his six years in the White House ...with 266 House members voting to approve the project, including 28 Democrats. Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/...stone-pipeline-114114.html#ixzz3ONJntXz1 meanwhile at the White House, in the oval office.. the general consensus is "SO WHAT???" Finish the quote. "SO WHAT??" Moochell, when we leave the White House...yo momma got-to-go!!"
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As Krauthammer just said...Obama can no longer hide under Harry Reid's desk.
Dingy Harry has vetoed hundreds of bills for Obama.
Now the crosshairs shift.
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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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So long $4 gallon gas. Maybe even $3. US drilling did that, now Canada cinches it.
The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.
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Apparently this is too complicated for some members to follow, so here is the cheat sheet.
#1 Oil was expensive, but now it is cheap. It WILL go up again, and when it does, Keystone will be in place holding it down to manageable levels.
#2 Cheap oil, on the international market, crushes our enemies. Expensive oil funds terrorist and Russia.
#3 Keystone, and dozens of other bills suppressed by the Democrat Senate are popular with the American public. The press has been able to ignore them because they never saw the light of day under Reid. Now, with republicans forcing Obama to veto them, someone, sooner or later will ask Hillary (with cameras running) �would you have vetoed this bill ?�
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Can't answer all of your questions...but I can answer one you did not ask. Will it give us an option to sending our money to countries like Saudi Arabia and the like? Yes See that's just it, I am not 100% sure about that. I want to be sure rather than just follow my first thought which was hell yeah do it- if only to take money away from Soros and Buffet. Democrats are forever lining their pockets by killing our energy- ala Clinton's Grand Staircase Escalante Monument boondoggle. Natural to want to screw them back but would rather do what is best. Maybe that means building the pipeline but want to hear the negatives and weigh against the positives and do it is for the right reasons.
When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are something to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honors are something to be ashamed of . Confucius
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It's a double wall pipe with sensors in between. Might be the safest pipeline ever. Funded entirely by our best friends to the north with connections to the oilfields in the Dakotas. Ever seen a pipeline map, it looks like a spiderweb.
Honestly, it's freekin Canada not Venezuela and they're going to pipe it to a coast somewhere eventually. You expect them to sit on the worlds third largest oil reserves?
We have refineries idle because they are set up up for heavy crude from Venezuela, that mismanaged fuel rich hellhole imports fuel now. Most of the heavy crude from the north will be refined in Texas in those same refineries.
Thank God for Texas. Same for our good friends north, not good taking friends for granted.
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The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.
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You'd think Zero would have been smart enough to get out ahead on this, and pushed the pipeline through himself along with all the Dems, and stole the thunder right out from under the Repubs. The dude don't know how to lead.
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Apparently this is too complicated for some members to follow, so here is the cheat sheet.
#1 Oil was expensive, but now it is cheap. It WILL go up again, and when it does, Keystone will be in place holding it down to manageable levels.
#2 Cheap oil, on the international market, crushes our enemies. Expensive oil funds terrorist and Russia.
#3 Keystone, and dozens of other bills suppressed by the Democrat Senate are popular with the American public. The press has been able to ignore them because they never saw the light of day under Reid. Now, with republicans forcing Obama to veto them, someone, sooner or later will ask Hillary (with cameras running) �would you have vetoed this bill ?� Thank you! Why can these dumbasses see that OPEC is doing to oil what China did to manufacturing?
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