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Because of the soot in a diesel makes a little more sense, but that much to me.
Actually diesels, especially older ones, are easier on oil than gas motors.
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I don't mind changing oil every 3-4000 miles, it's cheap insurance. Like heck it is! The difference between a 3,000 mile interval and a 5,000 mile interval (which are both EXCESSIVE for a diesel) amounts to 40 additional oil changes at 300,000 miles, or about $8,000. Push it to 7,500 miles, and you are over $12,000. I'll spend $80 for an oil analysis a couple of times to save $12,000. Well 300,000 miles for me is 15-20yrs. Think whatever you like, do whatever you like.....makes no difference to me. Ten quarts of Rotella @ $12/gallon to me is cheap insurance for a $30,000 engine. You agree or not, so what.
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My ford is a pig....it holds 18 quarts and with it using oil to fire the injectors, i wont push it over 5 by much.
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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I don't mind changing oil every 3-4000 miles, it's cheap insurance. Like heck it is! The difference between a 3,000 mile interval and a 5,000 mile interval (which are both EXCESSIVE for a diesel) amounts to 40 additional oil changes at 300,000 miles, or about $8,000. Push it to 7,500 miles, and you are over $12,000. I'll spend $80 for an oil analysis a couple of times to save $12,000. Well 300,000 miles for me is 15-20yrs. Think whatever you like, do whatever you like.....makes no difference to me. Ten quarts of Rotella @ $12/gallon to me is cheap insurance for a $30,000 engine. You agree or not, so what. $30,000 engine? oy... That's well over 10K more than a spanking new crate motor. Way more than twice the cost of an in-frame. Why on God's green earth do you drive a diesel if you only run 15,000 miles a year? And what has time to do with the difference in cost? Is wasting $8,000 easier if you do it spread out over 20 years?
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My ford is a pig....it holds 18 quarts and with it using oil to fire the injectors, i wont push it over 5 by much. What motor takes 18 quarts? My old n/a 7.3 took 15.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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My '08 Cummins holds 12 qt. Doing it myself costs about $90 for Mobile 1 and a good filter. I don't know what it would cost at a shop. I'm too cheap to have a shop change my oil.
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I don't mind changing oil every 3-4000 miles, it's cheap insurance. Like heck it is! The difference between a 3,000 mile interval and a 5,000 mile interval (which are both EXCESSIVE for a diesel) amounts to 40 additional oil changes at 300,000 miles, or about $8,000. Push it to 7,500 miles, and you are over $12,000. I'll spend $80 for an oil analysis a couple of times to save $12,000. Well 300,000 miles for me is 15-20yrs. Think whatever you like, do whatever you like.....makes no difference to me. Ten quarts of Rotella @ $12/gallon to me is cheap insurance for a $30,000 engine. You agree or not, so what. $30,000 engine? oy... That's well over 10K more than a spanking new crate motor. Way more than twice the cost of an in-frame. Why on God's green earth do you drive a diesel if you only run 15,000 miles a year? And what has time to do with the difference in cost? Is wasting $8,000 easier if you do it spread out over 20 years? It's not a crate motor. Stupid question.
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New motors come in crates. That's why they are called "crate" engines.
Rebuilt engines come rolling around in the back of the Fedex freight truck.......
Now, go play asphalt cowboy again and let the big people have an intelligent conversation.
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Your ignorance is showing. There are "crate" engines and there are "rebuilds." There are also "built" engines, several notches above either.
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My ford is a pig....it holds 18 quarts and with it using oil to fire the injectors, i wont push it over 5 by much. What motor takes 18 quarts? My old n/a 7.3 took 15. And 3 more in the hpop.
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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years ago ( in the mid 70s) I have a Vega GT.... it didn't hold 18 quarts... but it didn't take it long to GO THRU 18 quarts.... now that was a car you really never needed to change the oil on...
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