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I see in the new American Rifleman that a 28 Nosler has been announced to be the be all/end all of 7mm cartridges. Are we going to see a 24 or possibly a 22 that would eclipse the Swift? Inquiring mins want to know. Is Bob Nosler actually the reincarnation of Charles Newton?
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Another solution in desperate search of a problem.
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I get a kick out the guys that bitch about new cartridges. Like they somehow invalidate their pet rounds..
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The 26 Nosler is a 6.5mm not a 7mm.
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The 26 Nosler is a 6.5mm not a 7mm. True that, but they just announced a 28.
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Maybe next year Nosler will announce a .30 Nosler.
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I get a kick out the guys that bitch about new cartridges. Like they somehow invalidate their pet rounds.. Problem is a few years down the road when you can't get ammo for it. miles
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I thought that Rick Jamison was the reincarnation of Charles Newton.
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I thought that Rick Jamison was the reincarnation of Charles Newton. Maybe next year Nosler will announce a .30 Nosler. Inside sources say it's going to be a .29 Nosler next... MD will then sue and retire!
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Maybe they'll cash in on the massive success of the 325 WSM......a Nosler 325
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Then MD can take a few select members here on a Safari.....in Tanzania....for Cape buffalo...
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...a 28 Nosler has been announced to be the be all/end all of 7mm cartridges. As far as SAAMI cartridges go, wouldn't the 7mm RUM still be the king of the roost?
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Maybe they'll cash in on the massive success of the 325 WSM......a Nosler 325 I would think .338 would be more likely than .325. I hope they don't get too carried away and overshoot the runway... Nosler is a great marketing company and some of those "failed" rounds probably lacked a full court press with marketing... Roy Weatherby was THE master marketer who also knew how to wildcat new rounds. Lot more wildcatters out there than true marketing geniuses. You gotta be good to make your mark in an otherwise crowded field. Back in Roy's day, the field wasn't that crowded; in that era Roy WAS the hi vel guru and he knew how to present his stuff to the market... DF
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Those of you from the US are losing out on a fantastic marketing and sales opportunity. Start writing the bullet companies now!! You would have to use the metric system, but far more bullet diameters (and therefore, new cartridges) can be designed.
If one increments the diameters by 0.1mm, think of how many new cartridges can be tested? I'll give you an example.
5.45x45mm (223 Win) 5.55x45mm 5.65x45mm 5.75x45mm 5.85x45mm 6.00x45mm (the present 6x45mm)
There would be an increased demand for bullets, as well as testing and experimentation! Think of the lively discussions we could have here. Think of the magazine articles!
Why My 5.65x45mm beats the 5.55x45mm
Exclusive Test Results!! Why 5mm Makes a Difference: The 5.85x45mm vs the 5.85x50mm!
There's gold in them there hills!!
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...a 28 Nosler has been announced to be the be all/end all of 7mm cartridges. As far as SAAMI cartridges go, wouldn't the 7mm RUM still be the king of the roost? Yes. I think the length of the Nosler makes it work better in a wider variety of actions though. Probably one of the many reasons that the 300 WM is so successful too.
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...a 28 Nosler has been announced to be the be all/end all of 7mm cartridges. As far as SAAMI cartridges go, wouldn't the 7mm RUM still be the king of the roost? The 28 Nosler would probably be more efficient, especially with all the new powders now available. And performance shouldn't be too far behind the bigger round. With a 3.34" COAL round in a 3.6" box mag, one would have a lot of bullet seating options with sleek, heavy for caliber LR offerings. DF
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With 869 powder, for example, the 26 will burn 90 gr. with 120 gr. bullets and I'd think the 28 would be pretty close with 140's, etc. The 7mm RUM burns 100+ gr. 869 with 140's. The difference in velocity is going to be much less than the difference in powder burned. Or said another way, that extra 10+ gr. 869 won't produce enough extra velocity to make that big of a difference.
It seems to me, the Creedmoor/.260 discussion may be a rough parallel. The Creed is set up to accommodate longer, heavy for caliber bullets and still fit a SA box mag. And, the performance difference between those two isn't that remarkable.
We've never had the selection of powders currently available. And with those selections, std. rounds can sometimes do extraordinary things. Bigger is better, generally, but not always the optimal choice...
With Nosler's marketing prowess, I think the 28 will be a success. They'll see to it.
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I get a kick out the guys that bitch about new cartridges. Like they somehow invalidate their pet rounds.. I have no issues with new cartridges. I have not seen where this new introduction will be any different, much less superior, than the 7RUM.
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