|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 971
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 971 |
Where to begin? The Bearcat. Lipsey has gotten Ruger to offer adjustable sights on the Bearcat. WOW! Finally, I just gave up on that ever happening. Stainless and Blue. What are the odds on a 22 mag 2nd cylinder? This is good enough. Can you say 22mag hand reamer. Then Lipsey also lists a short bbl, birds head grip which is just ideal for an open sight pocket 22. The standard Bearcat, IMHO now obsolete. Probably a bit less exciting for most, is the Single Six offered in 327 magnum. Now here, I really dont get Ruger. Head up their butts. Ruger makes the Blackhawk in a 327. Who would buy that and why? But, now, again, Lipsey set them right with a dandy little size appropriate 32 revolver. By all accounts the 327 is one hot proposition. It is called a Single Seven. Why seven shots in smooth cylinder? More is better? ok, Fine. This must have all just happened because the web appears nearly silent on the any of these three. And yet reams written complaining about Bearcat sights and 327 Blackhawks. And many custom guns built to address same. You can see all 3 on Ruger.com There is a youtube on the 32. Hooray for Lipsey! How do we get them on the Ruger board of directors? Opinions? Any buyers yet? http://www.ruger.com/products/newBearcatDE/models.htmlhttp://www.ruger.com/products/newModelSingleSixDE/models.html
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,465
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,465 |
Quiet on the Single Seven?!? Your Googlefu must be broken! Talked about a ton on multiple forums! I have a 4 5/8" and the 7 1/2" and both are great guns, albeit the execution on the 4 5/8" is a little rough. It's back at Ruger having a few flaws corrected. Tons of power though in a really wonderfully- scaled six (er, seven)-gun!
-John
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 971
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 971 |
Can you point me to a forum with some good user discussion? Perhaps your favorite thread out there?
I did read an on-line magazine type review. Like to hear more shooter impressions. I also found a complaint about feeding and extraction. Not got any sense at all if that is/was all squared away now, or is this an on going random event?
This really looks like what the 327 should be (that is near quote from that article I read) I agree, it is right sized.
I am on a tight budget, thinking about this right now.
the guy on you tube, said the 4 5/8 has 2/1000 gap and others had 4/1000 gap? Why not all 2/1000? Is that even true?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 25,926 Likes: 2
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 25,926 Likes: 2 |
There has been much discussion of the Single seven on this forum including a thread I started a few months ago when I started loading for and shooting mine.
Brian Pierce wrote a fine article on the Single seven in the latest issue of handloader, and included an extraordinary amount of load data for the cartridge.
One of the gun rags laying on my desk at work also has an article on the single seven, I think it was last month's Shooting Times.
One thing we all talk about is minimal clearance of the loading port. The cylinder must be aligned very specifically to feed or extract a cartridge. This would be less of a pain in the butt if the cylinder were reversable. My revolver WILL be going in for this modification and trigger tuning.
Otherwise the single seven is a fine revolver. Mine is well fitted, and quite accurate with 75 gr cast at minimal velocity, 85 gr XTP at moderate velocity, and 115 gr Gold Dots pushed as fast as easy extraction will allow.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,371
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,371 |
Last edited by william_iorg; 01/24/15.
Slim
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,465
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,465 |
^ Those were the links I was going to reference. Also pick up a copy of this: Makes for a great read and some good info for reloading the .327. -John
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 971
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 971 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 13,000
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 13,000 |
I just picked up this 7.5" Single Seven. The date on the fired case was December, 2014, and this gun shows none of the problems with fit, finish and function that have been reported with the earliest guns. I agree that Brian Pearce's article is a must-have for a new Single Seven owner. Good fit on the grips: Tight barrel to cylinder gap:
Last edited by Oregon45; 01/24/15.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 971
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 971 |
I am glad to hear that the issues are getting sorted out. This really, sounds and looks, like well balanced ctg & gun combination.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 6,062
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 6,062 |
Nice! Gonna need a range review.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,958
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,958 |
Amazing.
They can poke another hole in a Single but won't poke five in a Bisley, a Redhawk or a Blackhawk....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,518
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,518 |
Amazing.
They can poke another hole in a Single but won't poke five in a Bisley, a Redhawk or a Blackhawk.... Hawk, I think that the reason for not making the five-shooters has to do with the Legal dept. A gun so made would be seen as encouraging higher than SAAMI handloads thus making the manufacturer liable for any overload accidents. Just my thoughts on the subject. Could be wrong........
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
Doug
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,958
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,958 |
Im talking 454 and 480 Ruger chamberings on platforms worthy of carrying.
MRI doesnt seem to have any trouble with the concept.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,518
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,518 |
My bad. I was thinking of a five shot 45 Colt.
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
Doug
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 13,000
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 13,000 |
Im talking 454 and 480 Ruger chamberings on platforms worthy of carrying.
MRI doesnt seem to have any trouble with the concept. The MRI frame is a bit stouter in all dimensions than the Ruger. Max Prasac (who posts here as Whitworth1) covers the factory 5-shot issue in his book "Gun Digest Book of Ruger Revolvers: The Definitive History." He goes into a good bit of detail about what engineering changes would need to be made to mass produce a 5-shot Bisley. It's an interesting read.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 25,926 Likes: 2
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 25,926 Likes: 2 |
Here is a link to an earlier range report and discussion of the single seven. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...Re_Shooting_the_single_seven#Post9376994There is also an article on this revolver in the Feb issue of Shooting Times.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 96,121
Campfire Oracle
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 96,121 |
There was a time when I liked the Single Six et al. Then the time came when I realized that I liked shooting and not spending an hour to fire 18 rounds.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 19,077
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 19,077 |
That's why there no 22 ammo anymore. Millions of folks are shooting semi-autos with hi-cap magazines. Rattling through hundreds of rounds at a session.
The rate of ammo consumption has skyrocketed. My guess anyway.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,958
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,958 |
Im talking 454 and 480 Ruger chamberings on platforms worthy of carrying.
MRI doesnt seem to have any trouble with the concept. The MRI frame is a bit stouter in all dimensions than the Ruger. Max Prasac (who posts here as Whitworth1) covers the factory 5-shot issue in his book "Gun Digest Book of Ruger Revolvers: The Definitive History." He goes into a good bit of detail about what engineering changes would need to be made to mass produce a 5-shot Bisley. It's an interesting read. Frame window and cylinder. The base pin and ejector shroud would also need attention. But that only applies to the Bisley/Blackhawk, not the Redhawk.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,958
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,958 |
My bad. I was thinking of a five shot 45 Colt. So am I, but that's where the 454 comes in. Plus, if they were worried about any liabilities to loading hotter, the original 45 Colt Blackhawk has been in production for 50-60 years now and I would imagine they would have quit making them if that were any reason to do so.
|
|
|
|
552 members (10gaugeman, 10Glocks, 10gaugemag, 1234, 12344mag, 57 invisible),
2,274
guests, and
1,298
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,392
Posts18,488,767
Members73,970
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|