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Next up, did any of you even bother to watch the video's? No, I didn't think so, because if you had you would have learned that the $800 tail light you're blathering on about has a proximity sensor built into it that is only included in a driver awareness option package on high end models.
Actually, I did watch it you old grump. How do you think I saw how much the tail light was? I also saw it has the back-up sensor in it. Stupid place for it if you ask me. I'm a Ford guy through and through, but they've priced me out of the game. I bought a Ram last summer. The difference between the Ram and the Ford weren't worth $7300 to get me to stick with Ford. And as much as I've been very hard on Dodge/Ram, it's been a very good truck so far.
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Fords always seem to be way higher than GMs. Oh, the GMs are high enough, but they offer incentives and all that that seem to get them down a bit.
There's a reason. I won't have another GM, due they fact that the one I bought in 2006 was a complete POS. I would have loved to see that sumbitch burn to a lovely death. Actually, I'm surprised it didn't.
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Can you give an example of what is held together by adhesives on new vehicles?
Thanks.
Travis Many have the door hinges glued on. Yeah. They're called pieces of schit. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Maybe I'll eventually adjust but I can't ever see a time when I pay that kinda money for a truck.
That is serious sticker shock for me. (and I drive a King Ranch) I stopped at my local Ford dealer last week to check out the new 2015 F-150s. The salesman that I was talking to showed me the King's Ranch the owner was driving. The sticker price? $71K plus. Now THAT is sticker shock. donsm70 Prices on trucks is ridiculous, a person puts 20-30 grand down and that's really stretching it for 9 outta 10 people and they've still got a huge payment. I see some cash flow sheets on a weekly basis through work and there's a lot of people out here paying 900-1100.00 a month on their truck payment. My opinion, if you're paying 900-1100.00 a month for one vehicle payment you're driving more vehicle than you can afford. I don't know how they sell them
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Maybe I'll eventually adjust but I can't ever see a time when I pay that kinda money for a truck.
That is serious sticker shock for me. (and I drive a King Ranch) I stopped at my local Ford dealer last week to check out the new 2015 F-150s. The salesman that I was talking to showed me the King's Ranch the owner was driving. The sticker price? $71K plus. Now THAT is sticker shock. donsm70 Prices on trucks is ridiculous, a person puts 20-30 grand down and that's really stretching it for 9 outta 10 people and they've still got a huge payment. I see some cash flow sheets on a weekly basis through work and there's a lot of people out here paying 900-1100.00 a month on their truck payment. My opinion, if you're paying 900-1100.00 a month for one vehicle payment you're driving more vehicle than you can afford. I don't know how they sell them Yeah, ok right. The first few new F-150's to hit the dealer were ALL loaded to the gills models. Same thing happens whenever the newest latest and greatest comes out, the high end models come first. You pay to be an early adopter. Ford dealers won't be getting additional models until the end of March or early April, so what they have on the lot today for new F-150's is all their going to have for a couple more months. There are plenty of new Ford F-150's priced to fit everyone's budget. And while I know most of you have already been checking them out and building one on Ford's web site, but for those that have just crawled out of a cave, hit this link and oh - welcome to the future. Click Here to Build Your New Ford F-150
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Know a guy that does the loan work for the local Dodge/Ford dealer. You would not believe the folks who are rolling the loan from their trade in to the loan for the new car. He was telling of a guy who shares the drive to the Washington DC area (130 miles) with 2 friends, and only one of them drive. This guy traded an F150 that was 4 years old with 120K miles. He rolled almost $9k into his new truck loan!!!
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Fords always seem to be way higher than GMs. Oh, the GMs are high enough, but they offer incentives and all that that seem to get them down a bit.
There's a reason. I won't have another GM, due they fact that the one I bought in 2006 was a complete POS. I would have loved to see that sumbitch burn to a lovely death. Actually, I'm surprised it didn't. I wouldn't have a Ford if someone gave it to me.
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Maybe I'll eventually adjust but I can't ever see a time when I pay that kinda money for a truck.
That is serious sticker shock for me. (and I drive a King Ranch) I stopped at my local Ford dealer last week to check out the new 2015 F-150s. The salesman that I was talking to showed me the King's Ranch the owner was driving. The sticker price? $71K plus. Now THAT is sticker shock. donsm70 Prices on trucks is ridiculous, a person puts 20-30 grand down and that's really stretching it for 9 outta 10 people and they've still got a huge payment. I see some cash flow sheets on a weekly basis through work and there's a lot of people out here paying 900-1100.00 a month on their truck payment. My opinion, if you're paying 900-1100.00 a month for one vehicle payment you're driving more vehicle than you can afford. Oh, I don't know. I mean I agree with to an extent, but if I can get two percent interest or less (and I can) why not finance that sucker for 72 months and put very little down with big payments? The time value of money means that I coming out ahead instead paying as much down as I can possibly afford. But just like everything else in the world, low interest rates have created a bubble in the car industry. There are billions of dollars out there of upside down car loans. Billions and billions and billions of dollars to be sure.
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Know a guy that does the loan work for the local Dodge/Ford dealer. You would not believe the folks who are rolling the loan from their trade in to the loan for the new car. He was telling of a guy who shares the drive to the Washington DC area (130 miles) with 2 friends, and only one of them drive. This guy traded an F150 that was 4 years old with 120K miles. He rolled almost $9k into his new truck loan!!! Not surprised at all. Seems everyone around here under 40 thinks they need the latest and greatest truck or SUV. Then they take it off the lot and install lift kits and rent-to-own wheels/tires. It's the new economic mentality: I deserve it, can convince myself I can make the payment, and nothing will ever happen.
Mercy ceases to be a virtue when it enables further injustice. -Brent Weeks
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I've got a friend who makes about $300K a year getting people into cars they cannot afford or don't have the credit rating. He gets a woman with $5k take home a month and a $2,800 mortgage into a $80k car. Insane.
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I've got a friend who makes about $300K a year getting people into cars they cannot afford or don't have the credit rating. He gets a woman with $5k take home a month and a $2,800 mortgage into a $80k car. Insane. Which is why I could never be a car salesman.
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Guy I used to work with bought a Honda bike shop.
said it was sad the folks that came in to buy a four wheeler for their kids. He would run the credit and just shake his head. They paid 7-8k for a kids toy and were already strapped.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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I've got a friend who makes about $300K a year getting people into cars they cannot afford or don't have the credit rating. He gets a woman with $5k take home a month and a $2,800 mortgage into a $80k car. Insane. Which is why I could never be a car salesman. He isn't a salesman. He is a type of F&I guy.
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I've got a friend who makes about $300K a year getting people into cars they cannot afford or don't have the credit rating. He gets a woman with $5k take home a month and a $2,800 mortgage into a $80k car. Insane. Which is why I could never be a car salesman. He isn't a salesman. He is a type of F&I guy. Which is the highest paid salesman in any dealership.
Mercy ceases to be a virtue when it enables further injustice. -Brent Weeks
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Know a guy that does the loan work for the local Dodge/Ford dealer. You would not believe the folks who are rolling the loan from their trade in to the loan for the new car. He was telling of a guy who shares the drive to the Washington DC area (130 miles) with 2 friends, and only one of them drive. This guy traded an F150 that was 4 years old with 120K miles. He rolled almost $9k into his new truck loan!!! Not surprised at all. Seems everyone around here under 40 thinks they need the latest and greatest truck or SUV. Then they take it off the lot and install lift kits and rent-to-own wheels/tires. It's the new economic mentality: I deserve it, can convince myself I can make the payment, and nothing will ever happen. It's tough to get ahead these days, and even tougher when you are making big vehicle payments, not to mention the insurance associated with a high dollar vehicle. I don't live like that.
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I've got a friend who makes about $300K a year getting people into cars they cannot afford or don't have the credit rating. He gets a woman with $5k take home a month and a $2,800 mortgage into a $80k car. Insane. Which is why I could never be a car salesman. He isn't a salesman. He is a type of F&I guy. Which is the highest paid salesman in any dealership. He doesn't work in a dealership.
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Know a guy that does the loan work for the local Dodge/Ford dealer. You would not believe the folks who are rolling the loan from their trade in to the loan for the new car. He was telling of a guy who shares the drive to the Washington DC area (130 miles) with 2 friends, and only one of them drive. This guy traded an F150 that was 4 years old with 120K miles. He rolled almost $9k into his new truck loan!!! Not surprised at all. Seems everyone around here under 40 thinks they need the latest and greatest truck or SUV. Then they take it off the lot and install lift kits and rent-to-own wheels/tires. It's the new economic mentality: I deserve it, can convince myself I can make the payment, and nothing will ever happen. It's tough to get ahead these days, and even tougher when you are making big vehicle payments, not to mention the insurance associated with a high dollar vehicle. I don't live like that. no chit, going to be looking for something under $10,000 soon as i get a couple paychecks under my belt.....should be able to find a decent reliable used truck for that....hopefully less than that
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Good luck on getting back on your feet. Pay yourself first by getting in the habit of squirling away a decent amount of cash every single month.
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Last truck I bought I paid cash for it and it already had a salvage title. I worked in Body shops long enuff to realize that all vehicle end up in the same place, I just want one that starts and drives and does not leave me sitting, otherwise I could care less if I am cool or up with the neighbors. I see lots of people around here spending big money on one ton diesel trucks and never use them for any work... makes sense to me????????
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I wouldn't have a Ford if someone gave it to me.
Nobody makes a better work pickup than Ford.
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