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Hi all,

Brisket is something that I have always enjoyed at BBQ joints throughout the US, however it is something that is not that common here in Canada. I recently found a brisket at a local grocery store and picked it up with plans to do it on my Traeger. I know that brisket needs to be done "low & slow" but other than that I don't know a whole lot. Wondering if anyone here can provide a beginners guide to brisket? Feel free to PM me if you don't want to post your secret recipe!

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Originally Posted by SamSteele
Hi all,

Brisket is something that I have always enjoyed at BBQ joints throughout the US, however it is something that is not that common here in Canada. I recently found a brisket at a local grocery store and picked it up with plans to do it on my Traeger. I know that brisket needs to be done "low & slow" but other than that I don't know a whole lot. Wondering if anyone here can provide a beginners guide to brisket? Feel free to PM me if you don't want to post your secret recipe!

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If the experts are around, HOLD ON ! You are in for more help, advice and recipes than you could ever have imagined, and the end result will be AMAZING !

Good luck, Eh, from a fellow Canadian

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This will get you up and running
I'm assuming you bought a flat?

http://amazingribs.com/recipes/beef/texas_brisket.html


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Season it with Montreal Steak and throw it on your smoker @ 250 for 6-8 hours.

Keep the smoke up.

Wrap it in foil and finish in your oven, or your smoker at the same temp.

Put a fork in the thickest portion of the brisket and twist it. Now let go. If the fork doesn't move, it's done. If it does, it's not.

I'd suggest testing it around the 10-12 hour mark. Depending on the size of the brisket.

DON'T pull it out until it passes the fork test.

DON'T plan on eating it the same day. Make it the day before. This will keep you from rushing and having to "get it ready" in time for the dipschits you're cooking it for.

DON'T worry about internal temperature. Fork test. That is all you need.

You can agonize over rubs and amount of smoke until your death. But if you want to get past the butt-sniffing stage of learning how to do a brisket, follow the above. It is not complex. It is fugging easy. Just follow what I wrote. You can tune from there.



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dvdegeorge,

It was listed as a "Brisket roast" and was cryovac'd. It had the rounder shape of a roast, not flat. Does that change anything?

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How much does it weigh?


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A whole packer will go 12lbs and up I prefer not to foil a packer
A flat will dry out if not foiled
Foiling is ok but you lose the texture and crunch of the bark when foiled
If you can take a picture of the cut


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New BBQ joint in Springfield, MO. Wife went there a couple months ago. Took me there a few weeks ago. We walk in and she tells owner she loved the rub on the brisket the last time.

"Yeah, I've heard that, I thought about bottling it and selling it, but I just can't bottle salt and pepper and sell it with a clear conscience."

There is 1500 ways to rub a brisket, and I don't think any of them are wrong.

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Originally Posted by SamSteele
dvdegeorge,

It was listed as a "Brisket roast" and was cryovac'd. It had the rounder shape of a roast, not flat. Does that change anything?

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Sounds like he bought a point.


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Yup I believe that maybe what he has and if so I'd not foil


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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
Foiling is ok but you lose the texture and crunch of the bark when foiled


No you most certainly do not.



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My experience has been a crustier firmer bark when not foiled


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Your opinion is wrong.




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I'm just a yankee so what do I know,to make matters worse I was trained by Texans


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I'd rotisserie that mf'er.

But then again, I'd spin a penguin if I came upon one.

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I'm guessing it to be about 5-6 lbs. It's in the freezer at the moment as I'm waiting for some warmer days run the smoker. -20C tends to eat up the fuel quick! It's supposed to get around freezing this weekend so I was thinking of doing it then.

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BOWHUNR Mike will be along he's the real guru


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Just put the danged thing in the microwave for 3 hours! wink


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Originally Posted by byc
Just put the danged thing in the microwave for 3 hours! wink


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foil/no foil, bark/no bark, fatty cut/lean cut, fat up/fat down depends on the temp/time spent in the cooker,..... and the idiot shoveling the charcoal,... blah, blah, blah.

Cook it eat it, jot down a note or two, do it again.


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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
byc Dave is another guru....come on Dave spill your beans


Yeppers ! After all he is the author of "Fifty Shades of Bark" grin

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Originally Posted by 284LUVR
and the idiot shoveling the charcoal,... blah, blah, blah.

Cook it eat it, jot down a note or two, do it again.


I'm speaking from experience here folks !!! laugh


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Originally Posted by 284LUVR
foil/no foil, bark/no bark, fatty cut/lean cut, fat up/fat down depends on the temp/time spent in the cooker,..... and the idiot shoveling the charcoal,... blah, blah, blah.

Cook it eat it, jot down a note or two, do it again.


Exactly.



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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
I was trained by Texans


I'm sure they did everything possible to make it seem as though you were about to split the atom.




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Naaa they said main thing was to drink beer


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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
Naaa they said main thing was to drink beer


Texans don't drink beer.

I think you were duped.




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Originally Posted by byc
Just put the danged thing in the microwave for 3 hours! wink


Are you kidding me?? Everyone knows you're supposed to boil it!

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Originally Posted by BOWHUNR
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Just put the danged thing in the microwave for 3 hours! wink


Are you kidding me?? Everyone knows you're supposed to boil it!

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Until fork tender?


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Originally Posted by RWE
But then again, I'd spin a penguin if I came upon one.

Rotisserie....right?


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Originally Posted by eh76
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Just put the danged thing in the microwave for 3 hours! wink


Are you kidding me?? Everyone knows you're supposed to boil it!

Mike


Until fork tender?


Ok---Rub, nuke, boil, broil, pour on a bunch of ketchup and then stick a fork in it!!!

Be sure and send a sample to Clark!! laugh


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Sam may well have a good spice rub in his pantry. [Linked Image]

I can't call it the best, I have not tried them all.


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Here is a attempt from a couple years back.

It may not have been up to "campfire" standards, but we ate, and liked it. [Linked Image]


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If you thought it was good......it was good.


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Yeppers ! After all he is the author of "Fifty Shades of Bark" grin


OMG! Does that make me the gay!? eek


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Is this another well intentioned thread shot to Hades?

Sam is asking for help, not more comedy.

Sigh, ---next?


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
Is this another well intentioned thread shot to Hades?

Sam is asking for help, not more comedy.

Sigh, ---next?


Originally Posted by SamSteele
I'm guessing it to be about 5-6 lbs. It's in the freezer at the moment as I'm waiting for some warmer days run the smoker. -20C tends to eat up the fuel quick! It's supposed to get around freezing this weekend so I was thinking of doing it then.

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Sam's not cooking the cow until it warms up. By then he'll have more recipes that he knows what to do with. Right now we're having too much fun with Clark!



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Originally Posted by wabigoon
Is this another well intentioned thread shot to Hades?

Sam is asking for help, not more comedy.

Sigh, ---next?


Can't answer the question more plainly than I already did.

Few things are as simple as brisket.



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I like to go 230 for 12-14 hours, but like D said you don't need smoke the entire time, I don't count the warm up hours either... so I really mean longer than 14.

The closer you are to below boiling (212 degrees) the less moisture you loose, but of course that takes longer. In Kansas City some of the smoke houses will smoke your meat for you for 14-16 hours at 190 degrees.

We trim off the fat where it's too think the night before, rub it and wrap it up, then smoke it the next day.


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Oh now you've gone, and done it!

Ask Sam Olson if you don't believe me.

A cow is an adult female bovine.
Tough off tasting beef.

A finished steer, or heifer, are just that.
Just what we enjoy the most.

A bull is easily tracked down by following the droppings found in abundance on these pages.
No off flavor, but rather tough meat.

A heiferette, is an older bovine female, likely fed to finish, but discounted, and not all that bad.

I don't want to talk about veal, such a waste.

Recess in rant.

Please don't call all beeves a cow!!


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Is this another well intentioned thread shot to Hades?

Sam is asking for help, not more comedy.

Sigh, ---next?


Can't answer the question more plainly than I already did.

Few things are as simple as brisket.



Travis


yeah but you show NO love in your process. Just cook the dead flesh and eat! cry

BTW what is your unloved secret to a crusty bark when foiled? "I gots to know!"


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Originally Posted by byc

yeah but you show NO love in your process. Just cook the dead flesh and eat! cry

BTW what is your unloved secret to a crusty bark when foiled? "I gots to know!"


Just unwrap the goddammmed thing for the last hour.

Now listen people, I've smoked/cooked/BBQ'd brisket every fugging way it can be done (on a conventional grill or smoker) and I have a fair amount of empirical data. You know what that data has shown me? It has shown me that it doesn't matter what wood you used, or whether you covered it in Tony Chacheres or some "home made" concoction that you insist makes all the difference in the world. As long as the smoke ring is between just enough, and not too much (which it will be if you follow my instructions) and as long as it passes the age old fork test, every swinging dick in the room is gonna be amazed by the fugging brisket.

Doesn't matter if I have served on the east coast, the midwest, Texas/Mexico or Montana. They all say the same thing. "HOLY FUGG THIS IS AMAZING!"

Well of course it is you stupid fuggs. I fugging made it.

And let me remind you all that the OP lives in Canaduh. You ever served BBQ to people that live that far north? You don't need to delve into the idiosyncracy of bark, rubs or any of that other schit.

As long as he follows 'flaves easy 1-2 process of cooking the fugging thing, those Canucks are gonna be so GD excited they won't know whether to keep eating or shove a hockey stick up their ass.



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So, how do you really feel?


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Originally Posted by deflave
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Few things are as simple as brisket.

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Originally Posted by wabigoon
So, how do you really feel?


Sorry.

I had to listen to Texans talk about this stuff for six years. I get a little edgy...

grin

GFY.



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Originally Posted by eh76


Clark is wink


No.

I am a complex man.



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Anyone else wonder about Clark/Travis/Dave, constantly suggesting a physical impossibility?


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But then again, I'd spin a penguin if I came upon one.

Rotisserie....right?


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One of my friends and his wife ran a very popular food wagon in Houston for over 20 years. They would sell out of brisket every single day, 5 days a week.

Here is what Reuben did;

Rub 20 huge flats with salt and peeper.
Fire smoker to 275f.
Place 20 flats in smoker fat up.
Maintain 250 to 275f for 6 hours.
Turn fat side down.
Maintain heat at 200-250f for 6-7 hours.
Remove from heat and wrap with heavy foil, WHILE HOT.
Cool for 3 hours.
Place in freezer, for at least 24hours.
Thaw as needed and warm on grill.

Their biggest seller was a brisket stuffed baked potato.

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Originally Posted by deflave

And let me remind you all that the OP lives in Canaduh. You ever served BBQ to people that live that far north? You don't need to delve into the idiosyncracy of bark, rubs or any of that other schit.

As long as he follows 'flaves easy 1-2 process of cooking the fugging thing, those Canucks are gonna be so GD excited they won't know whether to keep eating or shove a hockey stick up their ass.



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That's right. Once you drive one hour north of you across the 49th all we eat is hockey pucks and chicklets! wink

Seriously, thanks everyone for the input. I pulled the point out this morning to thaw in the fridge. Turns out it was 3.5lbs and cost $29 bucks. Considering the cost I would rather not end up with shoe leather. Thus the question.

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Low and slow and you will want to wrap it in foil at around 160 internal to keep it from drying out. Salt and pepper works as a rub as well as anything. I like them tender but not so done I cannot slice them.

I think I will do a 10 lb pork shoulder this weekend.


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Originally Posted by SamSteele

That's right. Once you drive one hour north of you across the 49th all we eat is hockey pucks and chicklets! wink

Seriously, thanks everyone for the input. I pulled the point out this morning to thaw in the fridge. Turns out it was 3.5lbs and cost $29 bucks. Considering the cost I would rather not end up with shoe leather. Thus the question.

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Oh believe me, it's the same here on the Hi-Line.

More than once I have been asked "What did you say this is?" And when you reply "brisket" they look at you like you have a dick growing out of your forehead.



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Which, of course, you do.

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Back to food, I have enjoyed many fine meals north of the Medicine Line, some, I cooked.



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they look at you like you have a dick growing out of your forehead.



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I wonder if that would make it legal to head butt chicks in the mouf?


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Lots of good advice here and I won't add my $.02 other than to say watch your cook time carefully. At 3.5lbs, it's not going to take that long to cook even low temps.

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they look at you like you have a dick growing out of your forehead.



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I wonder if that would make it legal to head butt chicks in the mouf?


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In his book, Myron Mixon, cooks his brisket @ 350 in the smoker and foils half way through pulling at 205.
I think he's an [bleep] but he's smart enough to say what he likes to eat and compete with are two different things.

Just me and the dawg here so a big cut of brisket isn't very practical for me.

I've done it Myron's way as way as the "campfire way" among others and all turned out good if I did my part.

Buy a digital therm with a long probe and go for it.


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Originally Posted by New_2_99s
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they look at you like you have a dick growing out of your forehead.



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I wonder if that would make it legal to head butt chicks in the mouf?


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Seems I've heard that before somewhere...

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Oh believe me, it's the same here on the Hi-Line.

More than once I have been asked "What did you say this is?" And when you reply "brisket" they look at you like you have a dick growing out of your forehead.
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And here we all thought that was a milk carton in your avatar! laugh

This is all making me want to cook a brisket this weekend! Any suggestions!? Do I use a big or small fork? wink That is the best way!!


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In his book, Myron Mixon, cooks his brisket @ 350 in the smoker and foils half way through pulling at 205.
I think he's an [bleep] but he's smart enough to say what he likes to eat and compete with are two different things.

Just me and the dawg here so a big cut of brisket isn't very practical for me.

I've done it Myron's way as way as the "campfire way" among others and all turned out good if I did my part.

Buy a digital therm with a long probe and go for it.


Seeing more and more teams move to a faster cook. I've done it and if done right it turns out just as good. I can do butts in 5 hours at 350 dome and foiled at 145 internal. I see no difference in the end result. Have won with both.


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This is all making me want to cook a brisket this weekend! Any suggestions!? Do I use a big or small fork? wink That is the best way!!


I like 'em big. And black.


Wait... WTF?



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Originally Posted by 284LUVR
SamSteele,

Motivational reading. Looks good on the coffee table and your friends will think you know what the heck you're doing. grin

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Myron? Your name is Myron?


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Thanks for the help all. I cooked it up on Saturday. Smoked for 6 hours, foiled, and cooked till it passed the fork test. The family enjoyed it enough that I have permission to keep perfecting it. Next time I will cut the amount of salt in the rub a bit. Here is a picture of a small part of it.

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Thanks again for all the help.


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That Canadian beef looks as good a ever.
What quality grade is it?


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Grade eh?

Seriously, not a clue. Tasted good though.


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SS, just trying to explain for the non Canucks.

The prime grade is the only common grade.

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That turned out perfect Mark. Good thing Clark bailed all of us all out! wink


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Good work SS.


(this is not an anti-Semitic remark)

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yeah but you show NO love in your process. Just cook the dead flesh and eat! cry

BTW what is your unloved secret to a crusty bark when foiled? "I gots to know!"


Just unwrap the goddammmed thing for the last hour.

Now listen people, I've smoked/cooked/BBQ'd brisket every fugging way it can be done (on a conventional grill or smoker) and I have a fair amount of empirical data. You know what that data has shown me? It has shown me that it doesn't matter what wood you used, or whether you covered it in Tony Chacheres or some "home made" concoction that you insist makes all the difference in the world. As long as the smoke ring is between just enough, and not too much (which it will be if you follow my instructions) and as long as it passes the age old fork test, every swinging dick in the room is gonna be amazed by the fugging brisket.

Doesn't matter if I have served on the east coast, the midwest, Texas/Mexico or Montana. They all say the same thing. "HOLY FUGG THIS IS AMAZING!"

Well of course it is you stupid fuggs. I fugging made it.

And let me remind you all that the OP lives in Canaduh. You ever served BBQ to people that live that far north? You don't need to delve into the idiosyncracy of bark, rubs or any of that other schit.

As long as he follows 'flaves easy 1-2 process of cooking the fugging thing, those Canucks are gonna be so GD excited they won't know whether to keep eating or shove a hockey stick up their ass.



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k, suckhead, I'm gonna try this with the rub the crazy alaskan hooked me up with


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Well?

Did you shove a hockey stick up your ass?




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haven't made it yet

was just kidding...don't be so sensitive

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You lazy bastard.




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save it for prime rib ! an no foiling!!! "brown bag it" and no resting in a cooler !! rest sleeping bag ...no chit! ...I just did a brisket in my outdoor wood fired boiler...will be doing a butt and I'll take pics....stay tuned... shocked


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Originally Posted by atvalaska
save it for prime rib ! an no foiling!!! "brown bag it" and no resting in a cooler !! rest sleeping bag ...no chit! ...I just did a brisket in my outdoor wood fired boiler...will be doing a butt and I'll take pics....stay tuned... shocked


What do you mean by brown bagging a prime rib?



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save it for prime rib ! an no foiling!!! "brown bag it" and no resting in a cooler !! rest sleeping bag ...no chit! ...I just did a brisket in my outdoor wood fired boiler...will be doing a butt and I'll take pics....stay tuned... shocked


What do you mean by brown bagging a prime rib?



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You don't know cause it's a TX thing
The paper bag helps tenderize the brisket without steaming it into a pot roast

http://wildedtx.blogspot.com/2007/10/texas-style-bbq-brisket.html


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Um, I see no mention of the 2 fork test, on that site !

Is this guy for real ?

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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
You don't know cause it's a TX thing
The paper bag helps tenderize the brisket without steaming it into a pot roast

http://wildedtx.blogspot.com/2007/10/texas-style-bbq-brisket.html


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Originally Posted by deflave
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You don't know cause it's a TX thing
The paper bag helps tenderize the brisket without steaming it into a pot roast

http://wildedtx.blogspot.com/2007/10/texas-style-bbq-brisket.html


What a loser.







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Not too far off the mark, Dan.

I e mailed Franklin BBQ in Texas awhile back asking them if they foiled their briskets. NOPE they use butcher paper.



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Texans do know brisket

I'm sure Montanan's do too


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