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Are you using one? What do you think of it?


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I had two and liked them very much. I got an Outdoorsmans MOA cover for the BT so it was like a typical turret with MOA spacing. My scope had the 4W reticle which I liked. The turret was twisted alot and always did what it was supposed to do. Only reason I sold it was the limit of 13.25 MOA of travel on the turret. It was plenty for hunting but I like to shoot further at steel and other targets the rest of the year so it got sent down the road. My buddy just got a 4-12x50 with the BT and 4W reticle, For the price I thought it was a terrific scope for hunting.

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Originally Posted by Reloder28
Are you using one? What do you think of it?

Here's a Z3 with Outdoorsmans turret.

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And a Z5 with the three discs.

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Here's the Z3 on another gun, this time, I went back to the three discs and used a Sharpie to write in the settings. I sorta like this the best, as one can use acetone to erase the markings and start over. I did a 200 yd. zero and have the first dot (which one can feel in low light) set at 400. 300 is marked as are 50 yd increments.

These scopes seem to track well and I like them.

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DirtFarmer,
Many thanks for your efforts. That's the input I am looking for.


So, with your method, can you crank it up to 500 or 600 yards or any point in between?


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With zero stop and only one turn of the turret, there are limitations regarding max range. Using a 200 yd. zero and with a flat shooting round, like my 26 Nos (third photo), it'll max out at nearly 700 yds. I don't usually shoot much over 400, but it's nice to know what the gun will do at longer ranges. And, yes, I can dial in any range from 200 to 650-700 yds. I've found the computer generated models, like the Hornady Ballistics Calculator, to be pretty close. Of course, getting out to the range and confirming that data is always a good idea.

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Yardage specific Outdoormans turret, Z5 3.5-18x44 BT, for 6.5-284 load of 140 Hunting VLD's at around 3K fps using 48 gr. RL-17. This gun weighs around 10#'s all up and is a sweet shooter, heavy enough for me to see bullet strikes at 400 yds. thru the Z5 at 18X. My last 400 yd., three shot bench rest group was 1.7".

Can't see bullet strikes with the 26 Nos. It doesn't kick very hard, but enough to move the scope off target. That's the price one pays for a 300 fps bonus and the extra 75-100 yds of turret range. But, it only shoots 2 1/2", 400 yd. groups... wink

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These are only on Swarovski BT models correct?

I haven't seen anyone make an aftermarket turret for standard models.

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I have had one on my .260 for about 4 years. Zeroed at 100 it will get me to 550 with 120 grain bullets. Have moved it back and forth several times and it has always returned to zero. Actually I don't think I have re zeroed the rifle since I got it.
Of course the optics are crystal clear and it's nice to use with a uncluttered reticule.
I will probably get another one for my .264

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Originally Posted by RWE
These are only on Swarovski BT models correct?

I haven't seen anyone make an aftermarket turret for standard models.

Yes, only for the BT models.

I would think you have have to return the scope to Swaro for a BT upgrade. I know Leupold will add a CDS and Zeiss will retrofit an elevation turret. Never sent a Swaro back for BT retrofit, not sure about that. You'd have to give them a call.

Kenton Ind. makes turrets for a lot of different scopes. Check their web site.

http://kentonindustries.com/category/custom-turrets

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They work perfectly and are simple to set up, I love them. Have them on two of my rifles.

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The low light performance is outstanding.


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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These are only on Swarovski BT models correct?

I haven't seen anyone make an aftermarket turret for standard models.

Yes, only for the BT models.

I would think you have have to return the scope to Swaro for a BT upgrade. I know Leupold will add a CDS and Zeiss will retrofit an elevation turret. Never sent a Swaro back for BT retorfit, not sure about that. You'd have to give them a call.

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turret for a lot of different scopes. Check their web site.

http://kentonindustries.com/category/custom-turrets

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I sent my Z-5 with a BRH ballistic reticle back for a turret retrofit. I had them leave the ballistic reticle in the scope. I'm probably the only guy in the country with a Z-5 that has both. smile


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I know the turrets are not tactical but how good are the internals?Hold zero and spot on with bc dial?

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At one time, Swarovski would add the BT to the Z3, but only the 4-12 model and not the 3-10. Not sure why but that was their policy.


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This is great input. Thanks to all. My decision is confirmed. Will go with the 3.5-18 Z5.

Also considering the 4W reticle, any input on that?


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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
At one time, Swarovski would add the BT to the Z3, but only the 4-12 model and not the 3-10. Not sure why but that was their policy.

I guess that makes sense, as the 4-12x50 is the only Z3 that can be ordered with the BT. I'm not much on 50 mm scopes, but wanted the BT, otherwise would have gotten the 3-10. This scope seems pretty sleek and streamline for a 50 mm and isn't that heavy for a big scope. I like it. The duplex could be a bit heavier, but this one seems to work even in low light.

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Originally Posted by Ngwenyama
I know the turrets are not tactical but how good are the internals?Hold zero and spot on with bc dial?

I'm not a target or LR shooter, just a hunter. For that use, these turrets seem spot on and the settings predictable. And, they're simple for us simple guys... smile

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Originally Posted by Reloder28
Also considering the 4W reticle, any input on that?

That's new and I haven't seen one. It does seem like a good idea, not too unlike what John Burns offers with his turret/windage Leupolds and sorta like the Huskemaw concept. Except those scopes have more than one turn of the elevation turret and are set up for very LR shooting.

Where I mostly hunt, LR shooting and doping wind isn't that big an issue. Out West, I can see the windage reticle combined with an elevation turret to be a great combo. Now, learning how to use all that technology will be the challenge...

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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At one time, Swarovski would add the BT to the Z3, but only the 4-12 model and not the 3-10. Not sure why but that was their policy.

I guess that makes sense, as the 4-12x50 is the only Z3 that can be ordered with the BT. I'm not much on 50 mm scopes, but wanted the BT, otherwise would have gotten the 3-10. This scope seems pretty sleek and streamline for a 50 mm and isn't that heavy for a big scope. I like it. The duplex could be a bit heavier, but this one seems to work even in low light.

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I'm like you. Not a big fan of 50mm hunting scopes but the Z3 seems pretty good for it's size.


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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Also considering the 4W reticle, any input on that?

That's new and I haven't seen one. It does seem like a good idea....

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Simply a consideration ONLY based upon what I've read. Have yet to put any concerted effort into long range shooting. My farthest whack job to date is 400 yds. I would simply like to shoot confidently out to 500 yards, a self imposed limitation. So, I don't really know what I need. But, I believe the Swarovski 3-18x44 BT is a good starting point.


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