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Friends had a couple of 375AI's. Plus it was Bill Steigers favorite elk rifle and I spoke with him frequently about it. I shot and chronographed a friends rifle, compared notes.
At the same time i was working with the 8 Rem Mag necked to 35 caliber,and with 250 gr bullets was pretty much the same kind of cartridge.IIRC my load was 90 gr Rl19 for a bit over 3000 fps.
The 375AI took a heavy does of slow burning powder(I forget details) to get about 2900 fps with a 275 Bitterroot and similar weight bullets. In the 8.5 pound rifle recoil was noticeable.
The standard 375 H&H took 76-77 gr 4064 with the 250 gr Bitterroot for the same velocity. The faster powders and lighter charges in the 375H&H produced less recoil...it was manageable.
I knew I was leaving 25 gr of bullet on the table but the H&H round was easier to manage in the same weight rifle(Back then we all "built" the same;pre 64 actions, Krieger barrels and Brown Precision stocks).
There was no doubt that the AI was the faster cartridge(so was the big 35) but I stuck with the standard 375H&H and the 250 BBC. There are no flies on a 250 hr-375 bullet at 2900 fps.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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don't know why, but I have been halfheartedly looking for a .350 STA lately...
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I think mine was manufactured in 1956. It looks like about a 26" barrel. Could that be? (It is in the mail and I've not handled it yet.)
I too like heavy bullets for the caliber. The 235's are mainly for practice. I'll be practicing shooting standing up and I don't mind practicing with lighter bullets, maybe not full throttle either.
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Bugger if it's a pre 64 375 barrel ,it is 25".
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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don't know why, but I have been halfheartedly looking for a .350 STA lately... How about a 35 on the Ruger case? I've been looking into taking a 7mm RM barrel off a 77 and installing such a caliber. But the question briefly passing by is do I NEED IT??
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Your 35 on the Ruger case would be the old 35 Newton....about 100+ years old maybe?
Need it? No. Not with the 375.
Want would be a different story.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Bugger if it's a pre 64 375 barrel ,it is 25". THANKS
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I have a .350 WSM on a SS M70 Classic, so I'm in the same "DO I NEED IT?" boat, but I had all of the 'needs' covered a while ago.
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Your 35 on the Ruger case would be the old 35 Newton....about 100+ years old maybe?
Need it? No. Not with the 375.
Want would be a different story. Of course a guy ALWAYS needs a back up gun, don't they?
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Bugger of course!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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The 35 Newton is a good one. I like mine. Doesn't do anything a good 375 doesn't though.
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Definetly a better price because it's an AI....
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Any suggestions that don't get to personal would be appreciated. IMR4350 for 300 grain bullets IMR4320 for 250 and 270 grain bullets
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I have a .375 AI but I can't help much...I shoot 270 gr. Barnes TSXs over RE17 @ 2850 fps from 22".
and, yes, they work. Yes, they do, I use RL-17 and the 270 TSX for an easy 3K fps with a 24" barrel.
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toad,
I'm guessing you meant the .358 Shooting Times Alaskan when you typed .350 STA"? If so, I had one for a while, and discovered that it was essentially the .375 H&H with a larger selection of lighter weight bullets, and a smaller selection of heavier weights.
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you are correct.
I suppose that the .338 RUM would make more sense...
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Probably. Elmer Keith switched from the .35's to .33's around 75 years ago, because the .33's performed better at longer ranges. (That doesn't mean I don't own some .35's!)
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John,
If one is a handloader/shooter/plinker as many of us are, the .35's also offer the ability to shoot handgun bullets(1000-1500 fps). Cheaper to purchase,and if shot at reasonable velocities gives the shooter the ability to have cheap fun with very little recoil during the off-season with his/her magnum big game rifle. Of course, cast bullets in any caliber offer the same benefits. Just a thought! memtb
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got 35's and 33's. But this will be my first 375. Yes, I'll be shooting some heavy cast in it too
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