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Never said he was wrong. I just would never encourage him to leave a good wife and it is my understanding in all other way that is exactly what she is.
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Tarkio,
thanks for that clarification, I see your point and it's valid.
what I see of Sal's kid, he's a good kid with his head screwed correctly on his shoulders. Have seen the pix of Sal and him doing outdoor stuff together. Sal's made a helluva an investment in that lad in both time and money. It's paid off well.
my take is, it normally takes two pretty decent parents to turn out a good kid. Only takes 1 screwed up parent to screw up a kid.
so I have to assume she's a pretty good gal and has played a part in that young man's development.
have also never heard Sal say she bitches about his hunting and fishing trips, that too would be a plus quality in a woman imo.
I see a bit of piling on in this thread towards her by some and we don't know her side of the story. Rereading your original post, and your clarification makes it clear to me, you weren't one of those guys. So apologies for painting with too broad a brush in my response to you.
thinkin Sal is around my age (mid 50's) he's probably younger so I may get the redazz from him (grin)
scary thing for some folks to pull up stakes and make a move.
as 458 said, when he was young, his wife was gung ho for a big move, later on, not so much for a lesser move.
I believe one of the things women look for from men is security.
it's pretty evident they have a good life, she probably has work she likes, family she likes and friends she likes, to give all that up based on who might be governor or that the state is restricting hunting and gun rights (probably not as big of issues for her as they are for Sal)
most likely she's scared a bit just to leave the life she's known behind, or perfectly content in the life they've always had, it's Sal that's changed his mind, he used to be happy there with her, why change anything?
course I've tried to figure out what women were thinking before and failed big time at it. May be the case here as well.
the guys that have suggested he sit and down and have a heart to heart with her or suggested just buying a getaway place and visiting it for awhile have probably given the most useful advice.
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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Strangely, no Christian has addressed the scripture supporting your position, Scott. Unbelievable. Many know it, but i guess due to the preference of avoiding (and gutlessly submitting to) distasteful azzholes, shrink from standing up for His word.
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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So, Sal should give up the desires of his life because of her friends? The helpmate has friends she caters to more than him, right. OK.
The helpmate has a house and job that means more to her than him, right?
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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Tarkio,
thanks for that clarification, I see your point and it's valid.
what I see of Sal's kid, he's a good kid with his head screwed correctly on his shoulders. Have seen the pix of Sal and him doing outdoor stuff together. Sal's made a helluva an investment in that lad in both time and money. It's paid off well.
my take is, it normally takes two pretty decent parents to turn out a good kid. Only takes 1 screwed up parent to screw up a kid.
so I have to assume she's a pretty good gal and has played a part in that young man's development.
have also never heard Sal say she bitches about his hunting and fishing trips, that too would be a plus quality in a woman imo.
I see a bit of piling on in this thread towards her by some and we don't know her side of the story. Rereading your original post, and your clarification makes it clear to me, you weren't one of those guys. So apologies for painting with too broad a brush in my response to you.
thinkin Sal is around my age (mid 50's) he's probably younger so I may get the redazz from him (grin)
scary thing for some folks to pull up stakes and make a move.
as 458 said, when he was young, his wife was gung ho for a big move, later on, not so much for a lesser move.
I believe one of the things women look for from men is security.
it's pretty evident they have a good life, she probably has work she likes, family she likes and friends she likes, to give all that up based on who might be governor or that the state is restricting hunting and gun rights (probably not as big of issues for her as they are for Sal)
most likely she's scared a bit just to leave the life she's known behind, or perfectly content in the life they've always had, it's Sal that's changed his mind, he used to be happy there with her, why change anything?
course I've tried to figure out what women were thinking before and failed big time at it. May be the case here as well.
the guys that have suggested he sit and down and have a heart to heart with her or suggested just buying a getaway place and visiting it for awhile have probably given the most useful advice. Well said.
When its time to fight, you fight like you are the third monkey on the ramp to get on Noah's Arc... and brother, it is starting to rain!
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Strangely, no Christian has addressed the scripture supporting your position, Scott. Unbelievable. Many know it, but i guess due to the preference of avoiding (and gutlessly submitting to) distasteful azzholes, shrink from standing up for His word. He did not ask for scriptures but I believe my advice reflected what I believe.
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Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!
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There is that thing about Husbands, love your wives as Christ loved His church.
Now I know there are two halves to that scripture but as men the part about loving your wife as Christ loves His church is directed to the men and thus what men should read keeping in mind Christ died for His Church.
My interpretation that means I die to my desires and wants and love my wife.
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Is there no basis for making an intelligent decision?
Sal, do not ask ISIS what they think you should do.
I guess you should follow the liberal creed, then. Do what feels good? Do what you want to do?
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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I would follow your dream Sal! The Native Steelhead are just entering our coastal streams, you are welcome anytime you want buddy!
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If I remember correctly and my old brain does not always do that, but I think it is a lot more than just her friends. I believe I remember him saying her family was a big part of the reason.
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I would follow your dream Sal! The Native Steelhead are just entering our coastal streams, you are welcome anytime you want buddy!
Something tells me you and him are not compatible. You lurking piece of schiet.
When its time to fight, you fight like you are the third monkey on the ramp to get on Noah's Arc... and brother, it is starting to rain!
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Principles for Marriage 7 Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 3 The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. Oh, thats the wrong one Scott, but a good one nonetheless.  
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Here it is, Scott.
31 "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh." 32 This is a profound mystery--but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.
Ephesians 5 NIV
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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Strangely, no Christian has addressed the scripture supporting your position, Scott. Unbelievable. Many know it, but i guess due to the preference of avoiding (and gutlessly submitting to) distasteful azzholes, shrink from standing up for His word. He did not ask for scriptures but I believe my advice reflected what I believe. He asked what he should do. Do we have a right and wrong or should we all just do what we think we should do, Scott, when He says we cant trust our own selves?
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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Yep, that one is a great one!
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If my wife of forty nine years decided to move to Ca. I'd just let her do it. If she wants a divorce, go get it. I'm not going.
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All are fortunate that the bible will lead on to the right answer.
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Strangely, no Christian has addressed the scripture supporting your position, Scott. Unbelievable. Many know it, but i guess due to the preference of avoiding (and gutlessly submitting to) distasteful azzholes, shrink from standing up for His word. He did not ask for scriptures but I believe my advice reflected what I believe. He asked what he should do. Do we have a right and wrong or should we all just do what we think we should do, Scott, when He says we cant trust our own selves? You should have been aborted.
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I would follow your dream Sal! The Native Steelhead are just entering our coastal streams, you are welcome anytime you want buddy!
Dynasty!! Book it baby!!!
That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.
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You're either leaning into your marriage, or you're leaning away from it. Look at your marriage as an act of worship, towards God...and strive to honor that covenant as much as you can, in every way that you can. Effective communication and effective gratitude are important components.
A very wise man on this board once said, years ago, that being married was like digging for rubies in a pile of gravel, only to discover that the gravel itself was the real treasure all along...!
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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