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No matter how good it looks or handles, if it would shoot where you aim, it's less than worthless. huh?
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I worked fo a shop that sold Hi-Points and Lorcins back in the day and HATED them. the Hi-Points was $155.50 with tax and one box of PMC 115 FMJ, The Lorcins were 64.95 and otherwise the same box of ammo. As background checks did not exist in the late 80's, it was common to sell a case of 24 each-type handgun per week, and then get around half to 3/4 back the next week. The Hi-points functioned very well, but the bullets usually keyholed, and sometimes flew up to 30 degrees off target (I tested one and personally witnessed this). The Lorcins, if the spring actually had enough hardening to function, would usually only jam about every other mag. Once we convinced the owner to use a hardened spring material, the function rate jumped up to 90%+, but all those versions in camo, pink, and neon grip colors were like putting lipstick on a Pelosi, errr, um...pig, I meant to say PIG (or perhaps I did)
Psalm 19:14-May these words of my mouth and this meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, Lord, my Rock and my Redeemer. _ Humble servant of Jesus Christ. Living His plan and praying to show it in name, word, body, and light.
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I don't hate many guns but there are a couple.
Hate;
Browning A-borts, X-borts (hideous to look at) Benelli - finicky from what I've seen but mostly because of a Benelli carrying prima dona sneering at my classic old doubles in the duck marshes.
Love;
Left handed Winchester model 70's Classic American and British SxS shotguns Remington model 8 Remington KS Mountain rifles (left handed of course) Left handed mini Mausers Winchester 64's and 71's Beretta 686's Sedgley Springfields
Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.
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I love: Winchester model 100 and model 88 in 308 or 284. Marlin 336 with a straight grip in 35 Rem or 44 mag and no safety Marlin 39 that is short and doesn't have a safety. Ruger Gold Label Browning Pump Shotgun Ruger 10/22, but only those with walnut stocks. Remington Model 7 (after all the work to get it right has been done) Savage 99, (except the models with a removable magazine)
Guns I can't stand: Any firearm with a beach wood stock. Any AR 15 If it weren't for the up coming Zombie apocalypse, I wouldn't have one. Any Savage bolt action.
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Very nice. Production guns I like ergo & visual: Ruger #1, 77RSI, rem model 7, Win 70 short action featherweight Older model 92 or 94 Browning A5 marlin 39 White (ML) Ruger single 6 Colt woodsman Savage 99 Accurate guns In general, wood/metal and hunting guns with character thats been earned in the field. Any older 22, including single shot, that has been used to introduce a kid to the sport and supplied them with hours of youthful bliss in the field. Guns That dont appeal to me:gaudy engravings almost everything that has been adorned with RamLine Safe queens Almost anything "Tacticool" BAR (gold trigger an crap lines...UGH) Blazer and similar Those that have too much drop at comb Any rifle wearing "See-Through" scope mounts New guns that wont hold zero and are inaccurate Any gun pointed at me. Any gun in the hands of a facist, communist, terrorist, or Liberal
Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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** Something about the Swede 96 / 38 thats just cool to me as well. Some of Captchee's ML get me goin too
Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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Read this^^^^^^ His likes and dislikes pretty much parallel mine. And I say "dislikes" because I find it a waste of energy to actually "hate" an inanimate object. I just ordered his Sportsman's Library.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. --Winston Churchill
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Read this^^^^^^ His likes and dislikes pretty much parallel mine. And I say "dislikes" because I find it a waste of energy to actually "hate" an inanimate object. I just ordered his Sportsman's Library. Didn't know it existed. I'll have to look into it. I have and like (not "love":) a few of his books. Smart guy with an interesting outlook but probably not for allot of guys since he doesn't see the need to kill every living thing that wears fur or feathers.
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I don't hate any. There are some I just simply don't hold in high regard at all.
Weatherby Rifles would be on that list. Weatherby anything really. I know, I know, back in the day they were what all the well heeled gliterati hunted with. Just not for me.
I have little love for Glocks, though I own one. It's okay but I don't want another.
Love wise - 1911's in 38 Super, generally dig Rugers and Winchesters.
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For the rifles I would have to say it is the Remington 742. Gun worked well if properly maintained, but there were ALOT of these sold at our area K-mart, and either thru not cleaning or generally poor assembly, they would jam.....like alot. As a result, extractor/ejector breakage issues and sticky/corroded gas system issues were very high. I can recall having up to 14 at once sitting and waiting for parts.
I can see issues with the guns having corroded ports, that is the users fault, but quite often, a gun would come in having been newly bought and fired first time out, and with issues. we would take them apart to find very poorly machined parts or properly installed parts. At one point, the local Roses department store chain was paying us to fix the ones returned (customers were unwilling to wait ont he factory). they did that one season, and promptly quit selling those guns after we handed them the bill
Psalm 19:14-May these words of my mouth and this meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, Lord, my Rock and my Redeemer. _ Humble servant of Jesus Christ. Living His plan and praying to show it in name, word, body, and light.
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At the risk of being branded a heretic, I detest the Ruger 10-22. I'm convinced the 10-22 was designed by and for midgets.
While I'm on the subject, I never really much cared for any Ruger firearm I ever owned or handled: I found them clunky, chunky, and inordinately heavy. Right or wrong, I could never shake the conviction that Rugers are cheaply made. Mind you, Savages are also cheap, but I still find Savages to be superior in terms of value for the dollar.
Anything manufactured by the the old Spanish gunmaker, Llama, was also trash.
Just my two cents.
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Read this^^^^^^ His likes and dislikes pretty much parallel mine. And I say "dislikes" because I find it a waste of energy to actually "hate" an inanimate object. I just ordered his Sportsman's Library. Didn't know it existed. I'll have to look into it. I have and like (not "love":) a few of his books. Smart guy with an interesting outlook but probably not for allot of guys since he doesn't see the need to kill every living thing that wears fur or feathers. It's a "collected works" book, so I'm not sure yet how much he actually contributed. The list of stories and authors looked good though.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. --Winston Churchill
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First I will say I don't really hate any gun, but there are some I will not spend my money on again.
LIKE
Remington 700
Remington 870
Remington 722
CZ 527
Weatherby Mark V
Freedom Arms 83/97
Anschutz 64
Glock Handguns
Older Sakos
Marlin 1894
NO MONEY FOR THEM
Browning A-Bolt
Savage 10/12/16/110/112/116
Ruger 77 Mark II/Hawkeye
Handi Rifles/Shotguns
Ruger 10/22
Thompson Center Encore/Contender
Ruger 77/44/22/17
Remington 597
Savage 25
Cooper Rifles
Benelli Autoloading Shotguns
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Love wise - 1911's in 38 Super, generally dig Rugers and Winchesters.
Me too.
_______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack
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Mathsr, "I love: Winchester model 100 and model 88 in 308 or 284"
How is the reliability and accuracy of the Model 100? I have read several comments of "not so much"
Myron
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Roy just want you to know i have already saved $13.00 toward your 38 super! and havnt yet cashed in the pop and Beer cans tho!
Deer Camp! about as good as it gets!
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Read this^^^^^^ His likes and dislikes pretty much parallel mine. And I say "dislikes" because I find it a waste of energy to actually "hate" an inanimate object. I just ordered his Sportsman's Library. Didn't know it existed. I'll have to look into it. I have and like (not "love":) a few of his books. Smart guy with an interesting outlook but probably not for allot of guys since he doesn't see the need to kill every living thing that wears fur or feathers. It's a "collected works" book, so I'm not sure yet how much he actually contributed. The list of stories and authors looked good though. Just ordered it along with Querencia. Haven't read anything of his in quite a while. The last few books I've read have been a rehash of the white man's treatment of the redman (Navaho and Nez Perce in particular) so I could use a change of pace.
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I almost ordered Querencia, but Spring appears to be way ahead of schedule this year and I didn't think I could tackle more than I've already got waiting for me. Please share your opinion of it though........the reviews were good.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. --Winston Churchill
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Will do. I've got a couple in front of it so it might be a while.
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I well understand that. Amazon is dangerous.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. --Winston Churchill
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