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TR went outside the Constitution with his expansion of executive power. Yep, between the National Wildlife Refuge system, vast increases in national parks, forests and monuments holdings not to mentioned the Panama Canal Zone. As I said, complex guy. Lots to admire and lots to question. What sticks out in my mind is TR deciding if he didn't agree with how someone ran their business, he'd just strong arm them by threatening to send in troops and nationalize the industry. Seems kind of tin pot to me.
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The twenty-sixth president.
Thoughts? On Jan. 6, 1919, TR died in his sleep. At the time people said ... if he had been awake there would have been a fight.
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The left would railroad him over his hunting, and the right would crucify him over his positions on "social issues".
He'd tell them both to shove it.
The media would hate him, but the people would love him.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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I've been watching the 7 part series on the Roosevelts created by Ken Burns.
Unfortunately I missed the Teddy Roosevelt segment and started in on FDR during the New Deal activities - but I've been addicted to watching them since I caught the first one.
I had several ideas about FDR that turned out to be wrong.
But this documentary is so good, I'm going to track down the first episodes and watch them on Teddy.
Ken Burns does amazing work. This was an excellent series ! Well worth your time to find and watch.
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much" Teddy Roosevelt
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Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
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Oct. 14, 1912 - before a speech in Milwaukee, TR was shot at close range. He went on to give the speech
with the bullet still in his body. TR spoke for nearly an hour before going to the hospital.
Compare that to our present POTUS
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I have TR to thank every time I go hunting.
Its also interesting to note that he wanted government controlled healthcare.
He's my favorite president, but I'd just as soon drive an ice pick into my eye than read one of his books. He does have some catchy quotes tho.
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I think TR was a product of his times. Capitalism was new, brash, and turning America oligarchic while pillaging resources.
Roosevelt set aside lands, sure, but he also took pains to tell the agency people that they were to manage for use, not mindless preservation. That gets lost in the translation.
I think he would be miffed beyond belief at USFS and USFWS today.
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I think TR was a product of his times. Capitalism was new, brash, and turning America oligarchic while pillaging resources.
Roosevelt set aside lands, sure, but he also took pains to tell the agency people that they were to manage for use, not mindless preservation. That gets lost in the translation.
I think he would be miffed beyond belief at USFS and USFWS today. Without a doubt. He'd have agreed with the creation of the EPA, but not a run-away agency, there or anywhere else. You can bet your ass he'd want the Fed audited. You can also bet your ass we'd have a LOT less trouble out of the Middle East.
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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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He didn't care for Ben Lilly much when he (Lilly) guided him on his Mississippi bear hunt. Because Lilly wouldn't hunt on Sunday. LOL!
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
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"Ranch Life and The Hunting Trail" - Teddy Roosevelt written
in 1888. A really good read about what the title suggests. ^^^Highly recommended. African Game Trails is also excellent if you have an Africa bent. ^^^This is a great read, would also add "East of the Sun, West of the Moon", and "Through the Brazilian Wilderness".
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Do you think "Teddy", was seen as to progressive in his day, by the conservatives? The Republicans of the day were very leery of TR at all levels of government. Mark HANNA, a mover and shaker within the party made a famous statement when the party was debating nominating Roosevelt for Vice President..... "Matter! Matter! Why, everybody's gone crazy! What is the matter with all of you? Here's this convention going headlong for Roosevelt for Vice President. Don't any of you realize that there's ONLY ONE LIFE BETWEEN THAT MADMAN AND THE PRESIDENCY? Platt and Quay are no better than idiots! What harm can he do as Governor of New York compared to the damage he will do as President if McKinley should die?" After the party nominated Roosevelt for VP contrary to HANNA'S advice, he told McKinley, "Your duty to the country is to live for four years from next March." Of course McKinley was assassinated, and TR took over.
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"River of Doubt"
Excellent book.
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Need to dig him up, re-animate him, and have him serve another term.
One of the greatest we've had. +1 +2
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Yes!
Were he President today, the RP bunch would have a fit about him Trust busting and establishing National Parks. He was quite progressive in his day, but he was no puss. TR was staill a man's man in many respects. Hard work, fresh air, and a can do attitude ruled his thinking.
[/quote] Teddy-Trust busting and increased business regulation. FOX- ANTI BUSINESS LIBERAL / 24hr- RINO/LIBERTARD Teddy- Breaking up monopolistic corporations, holding down railroad rates, and guaranteeing pure food and drugs. FOX- SOCIALIST/ 24hr- COMMUNIST/TRAITOR Teddy- He was the first president to speak out on conservation a and he greatly expanded the system of national parks and national forests. FOX- TREE HUGGER/ 24hr-TREE HUGGER, HATES AMERICA/LAND GRABBER Teddy-By 1907, he propounded more radical reforms, which were blocked by the conservative Republicans in Congress. FOX- Thank God for real Americans/ 24hr Send him back Africa where a elephant will step on him then %$#& on him.
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Doesn't it just want to make you lick obamas nuts? 
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"If you got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow."
-TR
TR stood by his convictions, right or wrong. He wasn't part of the established hierarchy in gov't; not in Albany, not in NYC, and certainly not in Washington. Media bashed him as well. he wasn't afraid to play hardball and stand toe to toe with anybody. This country is begging for someone that would be just a fraction of him today.
His handling of the monopolies would be political suicide today. His naval expansion which made us a world power would be condemned by the left. There are those who would be against his national park system and it goes on and on. He was bold when the country needed it...we clearly need it again today.
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