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This is the next one I'd like. Dunno why... Soto Muka
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shrapnel:
Neat stove. It's not a Coleman model 520 because it seems to be made of steel, not aluminum. Is that a model 530 or an early Peak One?
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This is the next one I'd like. Dunno why... Soto Muka Looks like a good one. Might weigh less than a Whisperlite. KC
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Talking about a "Jetboil" is like talking about a "Ford"... there's a lot of models that vary (particularly past models) quite a bit... an F350 and a Focus are both Fords but not exactly the same.
I suppose I like to boil water as quickly as possible, with the least amount of fuel, so dicking around with other stoves isn't my bag anymore. BTDT. The only "cooking" I do is to wrap trout in foil and drop them in the fire. I don't fret a couple ounces with the Sol Ti +/-. I like its simplicity and speed, and its miserly ways appeal to my inner Norwegian/Yankee.
I've used mine in the single digits, but in real cold I prefer a WG stove.
As to the Svea 123, I've hundred's of nights with mine, and have used it well below zero. Never, ever had a problem lighting it, but mine is a pre-regulator model. It's a veritable blowtorch no matter the temps, and I've even used leaded gasoline in it in a pinch.
Yeah, that was a while ago.
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11.8oz w/ the pump and fits in a Ti 450 mug. My Dragon Fly is 14oz and will barely fit in a Ti 1400. Biggest hiccup with the DF is the monkeying with the burner to fit. Don't think it's a $150 problem though. Still a neat little stove.
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MSR's and its ilk still really need the wind screen... that ain't gonna fit in the pot!
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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There is a modified jetboil I cut down with a SOTO stove inside and 100 gram fuel canister. Sub one pound. I find that the extra speed in which you get to a boil let alone the weight savings, if going for a week or more which is pretty often as I do 5-7 week long trips a year usually so it makes sense. If you only do 3-5 day trips usually especially solo then it doesn't really pay off as you can usually get atleast that long on a 100 grams no matter what you are doing. That said however, I now use a Jetboil Sumo with a Soto and find that to be even faster to get meals cooking for 2 people and such. You can boil 3 meals at once. To me its more about the time savings to get things cooking and the having to fill and relight the stove as little as possible more so than the weight savings and such. But I hate cooking anything at home or in the field so the less time I take to do it the better. KC, Your comment about only being able to boil 2 cups at a time is certainly something to think about so if that is a concern step up to the SUMO. The SUMO with the SOTO is the ticket for me though and will use that anytime I am not just going solo. Yes it weighs more but to be able to boil 6 cups at a time is so freaking nice with more than just yourself along. Bottom line if you mainly do shorter trips and looking as a jetboil to improve efficiency to save weight then you'll be disapointed. But if you are looking to improve boil times and such then it might be worth it. In the end the weight of your stove is such a teeny tiny part of your overall pack weight just use what you prefer
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I am turning into a stove slut myself:
MSR Dragonfly
Bushbuddy Ultra (wood)
Jetboil Sol Ti
Jetboil Flash
Trangia Alky (my favorite)
Gram Weenie Pro Alky
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David walter. Thanks for the heads up at amazon. Just picked one up. This will be my first compressed fuel stove. Been an alcohol stove guy.
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Jetboil sol is way better than standard jet boil with adjustable heat making cooking possible. There are undoubtably lighter options like the snow peak plus titanium pot. But the jetboil is so efficient and convenient. I mean you can light the set up and then set it outside or pick it up while heating, etc. If 15 ounces is too heavy you are packing ultralight and worrying about that last ounce so congrats!
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David walter. Thanks for the heads up at amazon. Just picked one up. This will be my first compressed fuel stove. Been an alcohol stove guy. You can kiss the alcohol stove good-bye... Unless you just really love gadgetry. Travis
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David walter. Thanks for the heads up at amazon. Just picked one up. This will be my first compressed fuel stove. Been an alcohol stove guy. Da nada
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Thanks for the heads up, eyeguy. This is my second Sol TI...I like my first one enough to want to have a second/ spare around.
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I've used a Trangia alcohol stove for 30 years and have yet to break anything on it. It is hard to get technical grade methanol which runs it best. I starting using a jetboil last year to save weight on my older knees.
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My alcohol stove is an old antigravity gear stove that doesnt need a pot stand. Just put an ounce or so in the bottom dribble a little down the side light wait 20 sec set the pot on and done. Stove, pot grabber, alcohol all fit in my small pot. I am not sure the jet boil will take its place but from what i hear it probably will.
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I like the Jetboil/Soto system like Luke uses, but more times than not since I am mainly cooking on a wood stove, my Soto and the smallest canister come along for coffee making. Pot varries depending on the trip.
As far as old white gas stoves, my all time favorite is the Optimus 111B. Too heavy for anything other than boat, pulk or car camping trips, it sure made some fine meals and baked goods. Mine eventually ended up on EBay, selling for waaay more than I paid for it new.
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