Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire "People Who don't Pay Union Dues Are Leaches"

It's not the desire for those things that wrong, it's the extortion used by unions in getting those that is wrong. Unions are no better than organized crime.

And, as a somewhat-related issue, aren't there shops where you can pay the % of dues needed for negotiation of wages and bennies, but withhold the % of dues used for political activity?

I hope it is the death of unions. They are inherently evil because they depend upon extortion and not good-faith exchanges. I support busting up mafia, drug cartels and crooked govt as well.

I'm starting to lose patience with you.

READ THE FUGGING ARTICLE.

UNIONS ARE NOT BOUND BY LAW TO COVER NON-MEMBERS.

Ok, I have two jobs to offer you today.

The first job we offer is driving redi-mix in a union shop, the base pay is $34 an hour, medical paid for you and your family by the employer at no additional cost. You will have a Teamster pension, overtime after 8 hours, OT on any Saturday. In addition the company will contribute to an additional $1 an hour to an IRA, and you are able to add to that up to 20% of your pay.
The main drawback is you will pay in dues at $105 per month, and if you belong to the 24 Hour Campfire you will have to endure being called “a slacker, a leech and a liberal”.

The second job we offer today is also a redi-mix driver position with a non-union company. We offer you $24 an hour, and medical, however if you wish to insure your family also, a $600 deduction per month, will be deducted from your $24 per hour pay. The company will provide you a 401K, however we will put nothing into it, if you the employee wishes to contribute, that will come out of your $24 an hour. You will receive OT not after eight, but rather after 40 hours a week, and Saturday pay shall be time and a half, only if you have incurred 40 hours during the week.
The upside is you may come to the 24 Hour campfire and claim to be a good Republican, a big man, your own man, and not be leeching off your employer.


So which one you going to apply for Ace? If you say job #2, you're full of schitt.

Neither. I'm not taking a pay cut, and living in the PRK. That's also a false choice, as it's not the case in RTW states

So, Ace, you remain full of schit as you profess to be a conservative, except when the rubber hits the road and you back the left because they feather your nest and you fund them with your dollars.

So in other words I proved my point, and you can't admit it.

That's about it.

You have no point, save trying to justify funding the enemies of that which you claim to hold dear.

Nobody said I back the left azzhole, I hate that the union supports democrats, but the GOP gives them no other choice, now do they? You think they should contribute to the very people trying to destroy them?
What has your GOP done for the working middle class wages, what have they done to curtail illegal immigration..NADDA

No, I'm not Republican for sure, but would gladly donate money to the Tea Party which I do...Fugg the Republicans, they don't represent me, they could give a schitt about us, all they care about is cheap labor and the cash big business throws their way.

You support them through your union dues.

What has the left done to curtail illegal immigration and for the working class? Nada.

I agree with you on the Rs not being worth a f'k. I don't give money to the Ds, either, though.

Naw, what we hold dear is a good job with good benefits and security.....what the Wal-Mart, underemployed, McDonald's and Lawn Care Specialists wish they could get.

Unions were designed to keep all Yankees up north
and Calis in Cali. Epic fail.

You aren't listening, I am not a fan of democrats, I hate the Democrats, but they are not out to lower my wages or take away my pension plan, the GOP is. You see, I have no representation, I hate the fact my dues go to the democrats, but I have to hold my nose and accept it, if left to Republicans I would be right down there with the non-unions with half assed medical, no pension, and no money to retire on until SS kicks in.

Get over it, the GOP is no more your friend than the democrats are.

OK, stay rebel proud and broke.

Oh, I'm listening and I'm telling you what you don't want to hear.

No f'kin' schit the Rs are no more friend to the Constitution and country than the Ds. You refuse to donate to the Rs because they are one enemy, but you voluntarily donate to the Ds through your union dues.

The Rs aren't out to take away your pension, nor lower your wages. RTW doesn't do that. That's simply union scare tactics.

Detroit is a shining example of what unions can do for a city!
So go ahead and support your unions until you kill the industry or maybe the country?
Selfish and short sighted.

Start your own business and your fondness of unions will change.

He is very, very far from broke.

Dell Computer was pretty good for us. Non-union.
You probably heard of it back in the 80s-90s.

It's actually a shining example of what Reaganomics can do for a city.