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Holy [bleep]....one does need a permit to exercise a right. I will say this again, slowly.....ANY restriction on a right is onerous.


That being said, I can tell your mind will not be changed. Be aware, however, that you are the enemy, as much or more so than the Brady Coalition, MDA, or the entire Democratic party.

Jeff, have you compared what the prices of full auto firearms were before the 1986 ban and what they are now? That price increase was fully intended, and is a block to more people being able to own a full auto firearm.

And I would like to buy a fully automatic M4. Please tell me how I can do that?


And, yes, we have the handgun permit. But did you know that if you place the national crime rate up against the Nebraska crime rate, that the handgun permit for Nebraska shows no significant drop in crime compared to the rest of the country?

So why have the freaking handgun permit process, if it provably doesn't help reduce crime?

He's clueless

I am still trying to understand how paying the state $10 to exercise your right to own a firearm is a good deal.

its only $10 bucks. Not TOO onerous.....JFC....

Because they could make you pay more if they wanted to.

You really should thank them.

Hey, if a must issue handgun permit actually significantly reduced the crime rate and saved many lives, then I'd say there "might" be an argument for it.

But I think Nebraska's implementation pretty much proves that mandatory firearm owner permitting does nothing.

Well not nothing; it does increase income to the gov't, and remind NE residents of where their rights come from.

I've never priced a fully automatic firearm 'cause I have no interest in owning one.

If you talk to a Class III dealer, he/she can probably help you purchase an M4. Price is often a hurdle when making a purchase, regardless of what you're seeking to purchase. A Kia costs less than a Porsche, a Ruger RAR cost less than a Forbes, etc., etc. I believe that there is a Class III dealer in either Ralston or LaVista.

The zip code that I live in doesn't have any violent crime, so nothing I could or would do would make any difference.

Some of us would prefer not to be put in the boiling water.



If you want a good soak, have at it, but don't force the rest of us in with you.

You really are a special snowflake....I truly hope you never see the freedom you deserve, although I fer we all will.

May the chains rest lightly.....


" First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

As you state, you have no clue. Fully automatic arms produced after 1986 cannot be legally transferred, hence you can't own an M4 by ordering one from a class III dealer. And those legally transferable fully automatics are running $15,000-40,000.

Well, you could if you became a class III dealer, pay $3000 for a 3 year FFL and order a sample. Of course then you are fully open to the BATF inspecting you whenever they please and you'll have to keep up that $1000 annual fee so long as you possess that M4. That isn't too onerous, is it???

First word popped into mind on reading the above ?

SMARMY

...you do that chit well.

GTC

You're an idiot.



Travis

No, pretty sure he couldn't help me with a select fire M4. No full auto firearm can be owned by civilians that was made after 1986, and the M4 I think came out in 1994.

Back when I was "just a hunter", I didn't bother with the NRA because 95% of their talk back then was about handguns, and I didn't care about handguns. And nobody was ever going to pass laws that would impact with my hunting....

Then California bans lead ammo, and other states consider it. EPA is itching to do that same ban nationwide and has floated the possibility publicly. ATF starts planning on banning all metal ammunition which can be fired from any pistol --> and there are pistols that shoot pretty much any rifle cartridge.

It literally is a world where gun owners need to band together and stop ALL encroachment on anything.

First because none of the encroachment has ever helped crime rates.
Second because the encroachment never ends.

Below is a chart of Nebraska crime rate with all "gun control" policies that were intended to lower crime. If anybody can make a correlation to any of them actually lowering crime, I'd like to hear it.

Don't read my posts?

Use the "Ignore" option?

I don't understand how my disinterested in owning a fully automatic firearm or a sound suppressor has any impact on anybody other than me. If you want one, buy one. I don't care, I just don't care.

It's not about whether you want to own one or not; it's about your RIGHTS under the Second Amendment and how infringement of those rights can, does, and will impact far more than firearms you don't are about.

Nice try. But you already flew your flag.



Travis

The all white one?

Rory,

You are more concerned about encroachment and restrictions than I am. Maybe your decision to band together with other gun owners will have a positive outcome and you'll have the knowledge that you sacrificed your time and effort to champion a cause that benefited not only you and your family, but all those people who didn't have your foresight and your commitment.

Me, I'm content to count the years until the kids are done with college, my Wife chooses to retire, and we can move to Vail and live the Colorado mountain life.