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You're pretty much on the mark. Once they get any size on them, about the only natural enemy they have is an alligator. And a 140gr chunk of copper and lead. 
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Just thinking out loud here. I don't recall any gunwriters calling the .270 Winchester -"Magnficient", just saying.  Heck, I recall a gun writer calling the .270 Winchester much less than magnificent, adequate for small deer but marginal for big deer. I think that story got him promoted. He's an editor now.
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You're pretty much on the mark. Once they get any size on them, about the only natural enemy they have is an alligator. And a 140gr chunk of copper and lead. Using a 140 gr bullet is gonna get you in trouble with you-know-who!
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Yeah, gotta shoot175's in the 7x57. What about .270's bouncing off stuff...  Rev, you eat boars? We eat sows, donate boars to the coyotes. One of our deer camp guys put a trail camera at the bone yard where we drag big ole boars, dump deer and hog guts. It wasn't coyotes that ate those carcasses, it was a bunch of hogs. A hog will eat just about anything, almost as bad as a possum. DF
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Using a 140 gr bullet is gonna get you in trouble with you-know-who! You mean the guy who uses 150s?
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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It would appear that my reputation is tarnished....
What can I say? Bell came to me in a dream one night and said it was OK to use 150 NBTs on deer.....
Corbett did the same, but only so long as the deer were chital....
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7x57 for hunting Big Game starts and ends with the 160 to 162 gr bullet. The lighter weight ones are good for Prairie Dog hunting
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Rev, you eat boars? We eat sows, donate boars to the coyotes.
DF Pigs are definitely opportunists: they'll eat just about anything they come across. But yes, we'll eat boars as well, unless they're really, really big. I know there's been a lot of debate about that, but I've found two primary things that influence the taste (aside from what they've been eating): whether or not they've been washed down before cleaning (a lot of times they wallow in their own filth), and whether or not they've been stressed before killing (e.g., run by dogs or something like that). So far, I've not been able to tell the difference in taste between a young sow and an older boar when they've been ambushed under a feeder and washed before butchering. Now granted, I'm not talking about some grizzled old campaigner that's been fighting for years; but something up to 150 pounds or so I'm not terribly afraid of. As I said, I know there's been debate about it. The little fellow I killed last night weighted 58 pounds on the hoof. He had no smell at all when we cleaned him. As I said to Elk, he'll cook up fine.
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It would appear that my reputation is tarnished....
What can I say? Bell came to me in a dream one night and said it was OK to use 150 NBTs on deer.....
Corbett did the same, but only so long as the deer were chital.... Wait a minute: just a few days ago you blamed it on Mule Deer. Gotta keep your stories straight.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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My stories are straight... I blamed Mule Deer for the 160 gr TSX.... The Poobah does not err in such a way.... P.S. Corbett said to say "Hi"
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Tell him "hi" back, next time you talk with him.
Buy a better brand of booze and those dreams will go away....
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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What could be better than talking to Corbett or Bell?
I mean besides the obvious debauchery of cavorting with young women....
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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At my age, Id much rather talk to Corbett....pass the cheap stuff!
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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At your age, you might not have any other option.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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You HAD to go there, didn't you?
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Misery loves company, I'm afraid.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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The truth hurts..... 
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Yep...
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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Back to more pleasant tops. I'll be hunting Chital in about three weeks! Only I wont be using the 7x57...taking a .243...( So I can shoot NBTs in it without ridicule...)
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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