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Headed to St. Louis next week with the boys to take in the NCAA finals.

With recent crap that has happened, I'm not real keen on going without a carry gun. Any advice on state law regarding carry laws and restrictions. I know the law says I can't carry in a sports arena etc. It also states carrying in a restricted area is not a criminal act.

Any info on the parking and security situation at Scottrade Center?

No help here from the resident Missourians???

I'm from Missouri but in the op's case he needs to check STL laws

I'd wager every suburban STL area has a different law

I'd recomend you not cross the bridge into East STL with a handgun

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/missouri.pdf

St Louis may have more restrictive laws than the state laws.

drover

You can bet on it !!

Kansas City and St Louis were the prime reasons Missouri lagged behind in CC

Generally you may not carry in Banks, any government building, at gatherings of people, at demonstrations, stadiums, arenas, hospitals, bars, Dr offices and where the do not carry sign is on the door. St. Louis city may have different cc laws as its treated differently under state law.

Fwiw I do not carry in St. Louis city but do so in St. Louis County. Be aware that there are 89 municipalities in St. Louis county and some have different rules.

You should not go near Ferguson with or without a firearm.

Open carry on all urban areas will get a visit from at least one LEO. They will ask for DL and detain you for a few minutes for a check. Open carry on rural areas is not an issue.

Make sure there is a reciprocal agreement in place from your state.

So local laws can supersede state laws?

What a crock of crap.

u can not carry in scott trade center. parking garage attached to scott trade is safe. cops at the gate. DO NOT LEAVE IT IN YOUR VEHICLE IF YOU DONT WANT IT STOLEN.

Nephew is a MO state trooper and was stationed just N out of STL and he had to stop at the city line because his authority stopped there. Hard to believe but he was really pretty happy about it. Could only access STL if in hot pursuit. Just nuts.

I was reading the Handgunlaw pdf.

Came across this:



Does this not mean that local municipalities etc. cannot have more restrictive laws/rules governing firearms including concealed carry?

it means that to me, that the state takes lead over individual political entities within the state.

That's how I read it, but other Missourians are stating that local jurisdictions might very well have different and more restrictive rules. Just trying to understand the rules prior to going.

Missouri has a strong preemption statute. Non of the local laws concerning concealed carry that existed before our law passed are in effect any more. True, there was some confusion during the first year or so, but that is gone now. There are no, repeat no, municipalities in St. Louis County (or anywhere else in Missouri), that have any valid statutes against CCW. The St. Louis region is a little weird in that the City of St. Louis is not in St. Louis County (or any county, believe it or not). Any laws the city had prior to our CCW passage are also now invalid. All the ccw holders I know (including me)carry freely throughout the region without worry, and I have read of no problems experienced in recent years concerning this. Even protesters with ccws were legal during the Ferguson riots. The state has no legal right (in Missouri) to revoke general ccw previleges, even during emergencies.

The only carry law a Missouri municipality can make and enforce at this time is one against open carry. Preemption in this state does not overide local open carry statutes. This was, though, modified a year or so ago to prohibit municipalities from enforcing their open carry laws against valid permit holders (from any state). Have permit and you are ok to carry open or concealed anywhere in the state, although open carry will definately attract unwanted attention in an urban area and I would highly recommend against it.

Contrary to a previous post, carry in banks is legal (unless posted otherwise). If you read handgunlaw.us you will get a view of the few places we may not carry. Our posting law is somewhat lenient in that carry into a posted place is not a criminal act and does not become a legal problem unless you are 'made,' asked to leave, and then refuse to leave. Most of us prefer to take our business elsewhere, anyway. The Scottsdale Center IS posted and they have varying degrees of 'checking' when you enter (even wanding), probably depending on the type of event. Even it is not a criminal act to carry in there, I would not want the 'hassle' of being caught, interrogated, and escorted out of the place by the police.

As you will note on the handgun.law site, one interesting statute in Missouri prohibits carry on trains and public buses. So, when here, do not ride Metrolink buses or trains with your firearm.

Probably not wise to go into Illinois although their law was recently revised to allow non resident CCW holders to carry WITHIN their vehicles. The change in their law is so new that I am not comfortable crossing the river bridge with my gun yet, but would not panic if in accidentally happened (not as crazy as it sounds when on Highway 64 downtown).

If you have more specific questions, I would not hesitate to sign up at Missouricarry.com/forums/ and ask. Welcome to Missouri!, really a pretty good place for gun owners.

Thanks InTheWoods. We are only going to e in the St. Louis area for the weekend hitting the tournament and taking the boys sightseeing some.

Any suggestions there? Going to hit the Arch, of course. I have vivid memories of touring that 30 years ago and suspect our kids will react the same.

arch, budweiser brewery, we have a great zoo, history museum, old town st charles is cool also.

when u coming?

If it was me, and I determined I needed to be protected, I would not even consider any law. Metal detectors or a pat down are the only things that would prevent me from carrying wherever I felt the need. If I felt it was too much risk to to go somewhere unarmed, I wouldn't go. Simple rules.

If your kids are young, the Magic House and the City Museum could be fun. The Gun Library at Cabelas in Hazelwood is probably the best Gun Library (selection wise) of any of the dozens of Cabelas I have visited.

For some reason I'm thinking that in MO there such that carrying in a such venue with capicity of 5000+ is prohibatited. That said I'd pack and make sure it is well hideing and roll on.

The cities of St. Louis and Kansas City are treated differently under Missouri state. Like it or not that's the way it is.

You are correct. Be aware that not only in, but around the venue also applies.