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Maybe they should start building desalination facilities all along that beautiful coast! Start with Malibu! Well, THAT should have been started on a DECADE ago.
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During the last water crisis in CA when I visited my dad in San FRancisco, a popular phrase was, "If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, flush down." I wonder, does that apply to Brown the guv as well?  Paul B.
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Maybe they should start building desalination facilities all along that beautiful coast! Start with Malibu! Well, THAT should have been started on a DECADE ago. A DECADE?!?!?!? Shee-it, Greg, I remember reading an article in Popular Science in 1967 about the practicality of desalination plants for SoCal...
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I'm sure that if given permission, they could pull a set of plans out of the drawer to pipe the entire Columbia river down there.
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I'm sure that if given permission, they could pull a set of plans out of the drawer to pipe the entire Columbia river down there. They had plans all done up to drain the entire Columbia around twenty years ago.
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I know here where I live in Colorado, they put in watering restrictions...golf courses were exempt because "they generate revenue."
Water is slim all across the west.
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Be careful what you wish for west/mid west guys. If Cali shrivels up, the populace has to go somewhere!!!! Ya'll are a lot closer to that "state" than I am.  Clyde
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Bet they're still stealing water from the Central Valley farmers and instead letting it run straight into the ocean to save the Delta Smelt.
Orchards and farms are broke so they can't pay taxes.
Farmworkers are on unemployment.
Food prices are up.
Water supplies are down.
But we got this cool little baitfish.
Sounds like natural selection.
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A DECADE?!?!?!?
Shee-it, Greg, I remember reading an article in Popular Science in 1967 about the practicality of desalination plants for SoCal...
There was a fellow Named Merle Jenson, built and designed desalination plants all over the world. Spoke frequently on the University lecture circuit in the 1970s, and IIRC was tenured at University of Arizona. He was raising 14 different varieties of hell about what lay ahead for the LA basin way back than. Things will be alright though, that dipchit governor "Moon Beam" is going to ride to the rescue later this AM, and with one stroke of his wand, and a pinch of his magic fairy dust, make it all better. ....be interesting to see what new "regulations" he pulls out of his rectal orfice. GTC
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Desalination plants require lots of energy which normally wouldn't be a problem since California is floating on oil deposits both on and offshore. But we're talking Californians here and oil based energy causes imminanticeagegloblwarmingclimatechangeclimatedisruption.
Enjoy the desert morons.
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Just to be realistic, I don't expect any meaningful solutions to the problem this time around... Link and nothing in recent legislation will solve a thing. But when 50 or 60 times as much can be spent on a bullet train than water supply... what's to be said! Phil
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I'm sure that if given permission, they could pull a set of plans out of the drawer to pipe the entire Columbia river down there. They had plans all done up to drain the entire Columbia around twenty years ago. Cal & Oregon were in talks way back in the 1960's to divert SOME NOT ALL of the Columbia water. There's even been proposals to pipe water from Alaska. Not that it will happen, but it can be done in a way with minimal disruption of flow from the Columbia. I doubt the outflow to the ocean would result in no more than a inch or two of depth loss. Here's a short article dated 2008 http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1218263105159940.xml&coll=7
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You fellers like to eat?
Q: Which are the top 10 agricultural producing States?
A: In 2013, the top 10 agricultural producing States, in terms of cash receipts were (in descending order):
California,
Iowa,
Nebraska,
Minnesota,
Texas,
Illinois,
Kansas,
North Carolina,
Wisconsin,
and Indiana.
These and related statistics can be found in ERS's Farm Income and Wealth Statistics.
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Bet they're still stealing water from the Central Valley farmers and instead letting it run straight into the ocean to save the Delta Smelt.
Orchards and farms are broke so they can't pay taxes.
Farmworkers are on unemployment.
Food prices are up.
Water supplies are down.
But we got this cool little baitfish.
Sounds like natural selection. Ｉ hate to burst your Stewart Resnick sponsored bubble, but the Delta Smelt are so close to extinction, that pumping plants are not currently effected. From: http://californiawaterblog.com/2015/03/18/prepare-for-extinction-of-delta-smelt/Intensive Kodiak trawl surveys near the state and federal water projects (Jersey Point) in 2014 caught so few fish that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service placed no restrictions on Delta pumping that year. Expect no pumping restrictions this year either, as their numbers are so low, that "the man" in CA fisheries science is calling them functionally extinct. If you're skeptical of the source I linked, google up some others. They'll all corroborate.
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Big difference between California's 46.4 Billion and Idaho's 9.6 Billion.
But I'd agree, that some of California's farm production should be pushed back to other states, and allow California land to go back to desert....
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Bet they're still stealing water from the Central Valley farmers and instead letting it run straight into the ocean to save the Delta Smelt.
But we got this cool little baitfish.
Sounds like natural selection. The best thing they could do to save the delta smelt, and salmon smolt would be to take all size restrictions and no bag limit on Striped Bass. Probably help the Sturgeon population too! Striped Bass were introduced in the 1880's
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Bet they're still stealing water from the Central Valley farmers and instead letting it run straight into the ocean to save the Delta Smelt.
But we got this cool little baitfish.
Sounds like natural selection. The best thing they could do to save the delta smelt, and salmon smolt would be to take all size restrictions and no bag limit on Striped Bass. Probably help the Sturgeon population too! Striped Bass were introduced in the 1880's Yep, for 125 years, the Smelt were barely hanging on. But now with those huge Striper pops, they're getting hammered. Only, Striper numbers are way down. And Salmon numbers are way down. And Steelhead numbers are way down. And Sturgeon numbers are way down... So, you know what it must be? It's got to be them dang Largemouth/Smallmouth/American Shad/Bluegill/Green Sunfish/Crappie.... Couldn't be the drought, and its effect on an oversubscribed watershed...
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