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I'm using 73 grains of Retumbo and the 168 NABLR sparked by a WLRM for 2975 ft/sec MV. I got some 175 grain NABLR and I'd like to see how they fly using the same powder.
Anyone have some Quickload info for a Tikka T3 (24 3/8" barrel)?
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How is the accuracy of the 168gr nablr?
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Really good, .75" or so. OAL 3.344".
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Your 168 ABLR load (for comparison of what you're seeing with the chrono):
Cartridge : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet : .284, 168, Nosler Accubond LR 58623
Useable Case Capaci: 72.310 grain H2O = 4.695 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon Retumbo
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 87 58.40 2336 2036 28774 11173 93.0 1.686
-18.0 89 59.86 2402 2152 30819 11553 94.5 1.640
-16.0 91 61.32 2468 2272 33018 11907 95.9 1.595
-14.0 94 62.78 2534 2395 35387 12232 97.0 1.551
-12.0 96 64.24 2600 2522 37942 12525 98.0 1.506
-10.0 98 65.70 2667 2653 40699 12784 98.8 1.455
-08.0 100 67.16 2733 2786 43676 13005 99.4 1.406
-06.0 102 68.62 2799 2922 46894 13186 99.8 1.359
-04.0 105 70.08 2864 3060 50385 13325 100.0 1.313
-02.0 107 71.54 2929 3199 54152 13428 100.0 1.269 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 109 73.00 2993 3341 58275 13523 100.0 1.227 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 111 74.46 3056 3484 62743 13612 100.0 1.186 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 113 75.92 3119 3630 67613 13696 100.0 1.147 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 115 77.38 3182 3777 72926 13774 100.0 1.109 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 118 78.84 3244 3927 78741 13847 100.0 1.072 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 120 80.30 3307 4079 85120 13912 100.0 1.037 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Some 175 ABLR info:
Cartridge : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet : .284, 175, Nosler Accubond LR 58517
Useable Case Capaci: 71.906 grain H2O = 4.669 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon Retumbo
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 85 56.80 2267 1997 27874 10971 93.1 1.739
-18.0 87 58.22 2330 2109 29810 11342 94.6 1.692
-16.0 89 59.64 2393 2225 31888 11690 95.9 1.646
-14.0 92 61.06 2456 2344 34123 12011 97.0 1.602
-12.0 94 62.48 2519 2467 36527 12302 98.0 1.558
-10.0 96 63.90 2583 2592 39113 12560 98.8 1.510
-08.0 98 65.32 2646 2721 41902 12784 99.4 1.459
-06.0 100 66.74 2709 2851 44908 12971 99.8 1.412
-04.0 102 68.16 2771 2984 48154 13118 100.0 1.366
-02.0 104 69.58 2833 3119 51664 13229 100.0 1.321
+00.0 107 71.00 2894 3255 55464 13331 100.0 1.278 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 109 72.42 2955 3393 59581 13428 100.0 1.237 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 111 73.84 3015 3533 64050 13520 100.0 1.197 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 113 75.26 3075 3674 68913 13606 100.0 1.158 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 115 76.68 3134 3818 74209 13687 100.0 1.121 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 117 78.10 3194 3963 79989 13763 100.0 1.085 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
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Your 168 ABLR load (for comparison of what you're seeing with the chrono):
Cartridge : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet : .284, 168, Nosler Accubond LR 58623
Useable Case Capaci: 72.310 grain H2O = 4.695 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon Retumbo
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 87 58.40 2336 2036 28774 11173 93.0 1.686
-18.0 89 59.86 2402 2152 30819 11553 94.5 1.640
-16.0 91 61.32 2468 2272 33018 11907 95.9 1.595
-14.0 94 62.78 2534 2395 35387 12232 97.0 1.551
-12.0 96 64.24 2600 2522 37942 12525 98.0 1.506
-10.0 98 65.70 2667 2653 40699 12784 98.8 1.455
-08.0 100 67.16 2733 2786 43676 13005 99.4 1.406
-06.0 102 68.62 2799 2922 46894 13186 99.8 1.359
-04.0 105 70.08 2864 3060 50385 13325 100.0 1.313
-02.0 107 71.54 2929 3199 54152 13428 100.0 1.269 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 109 73.00 2993 3341 58275 13523 100.0 1.227 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 111 74.46 3056 3484 62743 13612 100.0 1.186 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 113 75.92 3119 3630 67613 13696 100.0 1.147 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 115 77.38 3182 3777 72926 13774 100.0 1.109 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 118 78.84 3244 3927 78741 13847 100.0 1.072 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 120 80.30 3307 4079 85120 13912 100.0 1.037 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Some 175 ABLR info:
Cartridge : 7 mm Rem. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet : .284, 175, Nosler Accubond LR 58517
Useable Case Capaci: 71.906 grain H2O = 4.669 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder : Hodgdon Retumbo
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 85 56.80 2267 1997 27874 10971 93.1 1.739
-18.0 87 58.22 2330 2109 29810 11342 94.6 1.692
-16.0 89 59.64 2393 2225 31888 11690 95.9 1.646
-14.0 92 61.06 2456 2344 34123 12011 97.0 1.602
-12.0 94 62.48 2519 2467 36527 12302 98.0 1.558
-10.0 96 63.90 2583 2592 39113 12560 98.8 1.510
-08.0 98 65.32 2646 2721 41902 12784 99.4 1.459
-06.0 100 66.74 2709 2851 44908 12971 99.8 1.412
-04.0 102 68.16 2771 2984 48154 13118 100.0 1.366
-02.0 104 69.58 2833 3119 51664 13229 100.0 1.321
+00.0 107 71.00 2894 3255 55464 13331 100.0 1.278 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 109 72.42 2955 3393 59581 13428 100.0 1.237 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 111 73.84 3015 3533 64050 13520 100.0 1.197 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 113 75.26 3075 3674 68913 13606 100.0 1.158 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 115 76.68 3134 3818 74209 13687 100.0 1.121 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 117 78.10 3194 3963 79989 13763 100.0 1.085 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Looks like 72.5 is the max. Thanks for the info! P
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Loaded these up yesterday: ![[Linked Image]](http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/pharmseller/image.jpg1_zpse1uyg6ry.jpg) I'll post results after a range day. P
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Hello P
If I were you, I would load a few at lower powder charges, checking PSI in your rifle.
Wish you luck.
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I expect that load to generate 2800-2850fps.
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Hello P
If I were you, I would load a few at lower powder charges, checking PSI in your rifle.
Wish you luck. I appreciate the concern. I loaded 4 different charges, each .5 grain lower. I just didn't take a pic of them. P
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I expect that load to generate 2800-2850fps. Why so low? I'm about 18 ft/sec under Quickload's projection for the 168 grain Retumbo load. I figure I should be close to 2900, if not a smidge over. P
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Hello P
If I were you, I would load a few at lower powder charges, checking PSI in your rifle.
Wish you luck. I appreciate the concern. I loaded 4 different charges, each .5 grain lower. I just didn't take a pic of them. P Good deal. Take care
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Interested in seeing how you do Pharm. That would be an excellent combo if the accuracy holds up like the 168 does. Can't wait to see how it works.
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Litz monkeyed with the BC, I'd hang my hat on his numbers. And lower in a 1:9 for the 175's most likely. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j411/Dieselchessy/Lits%20ABLR%20BC_zpsb2h36qmu.jpg)
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I am getting 2950-2975 fops with my 26" Shilen barrel with the 175 ABLR and IMR7828ssc. I am loaded up to 64.5 grains. No pressure yet. Also, loading 168 ABLR with Retumbo with terrific accuracy at 69.5 grains. Haven't chronied yet, but similar loads with 160 cub ones yield 3050 ish.
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72.5 grains Retumbo, 2935 MV, no pressure signs. Now for a range day for accuracy.
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Have you considered RE 33? It was impressive when I tested it in my 7 mags with the 175 Partition and Interlock.
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I am loading the 175 ABLR, 3.450 COL (rifle throated) 25"Lilja 3 groove. Using 69gr H1000 & Rem 9 1/2M primer. Getting 2950 easy extraction and now on 8 loads with my test Hornandy brass. .5-.7" be interesting to see what quick load says.  Lefty C
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