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A list of overrated cartridges without the 280 at or near the top?
Really?

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No think it should have been the 7X64...

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Originally Posted by Pappy348
I'll try, but things have gotten a bit confused.

As best as I can remember, most feel that the article that started all this was stupid,,and some guy wants me to show this picture to my mother....

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Originally Posted by TBREW401
A list of overrated cartridges without the 280 at or near the top?
Really?


The 280 Remington is what the 270 Winchester could only wish to be.

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Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by TBREW401
A list of overrated cartridges without the 280 at or near the top?
Really?


The 280 Remington is what the 270 Winchester could only wish to be.



The 280 Remington is what the 270 Winchester and .30'06 could only conspire to be wink


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Was hoping this would be sorted out by now. -sniff-

The 7.62x39 is over rated. All the rest are amusing, even on a bad day.


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The 7.62x39mm has a scary bark. 'Specially when you're too close.

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Well, the AK47 does indeed have a very distinct sound... Closer to it is definitely not better. Then again the M1A when the "clip" (en-block loader) ejects is another very distinct sound.

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The 280 is less over rated than a 30-06?
Sure it is.

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Shrapnel nailed it with the 7mag.

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She aint no muzzie...not with eyes that color...


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Originally Posted by Pittu
Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
Little Known Facts about Firearms: The 45 Elias Steamer
Copyright 2015 - Cletus Tenderloin

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.........Elias Martineau

In 1889, Elias Martineau, of the Louisiana ‘salt water boiled chicken' Martineaus, constructed the first steam driven, self-contained cartridge – the 45 Elias Steamer.

Elias lived just outside of Lafayette, in the newly created Acadia Parish. God bless him, his intentions were honorable, but he just wasn’t too bright. He figured to capitalize on the family idea of using boiled salt water from the Gulf. Instead of cooking chicken though, he wanted to use steam to propel bullets. Sadly, neither the Martineau chicken recipe nor Elias’ steam driven bullet idea took off.

Originally, Elias thought that he could create something that would rival the black powder and new smokeless powder cartridges of the day. He worked hard to build a tiny steam chamber and water reservoir inside a 45-70 case. He chose the 45-70 because of its availability and the sheer number of single shot rifles piled up in his shed.

For about 18 months he worked tirelessly, modifying cases with wee chambers and a single, steam driven piston. The effort took most of his time and ruined his eyesight. When it became too difficult to use even large magnifying glasses, he imported ‘illegals’ from Tennessee to labor in his small shed. He was determined to succeed, despite employing people from the Smoky Mountains.

Had Elias made one or two prototypes before going into mass production, he might have realized his idea wouldn’t hold water. Or, more to the point, wouldn’t hold enough water. While the principle of steam pressure had been proven in locomotives, it was a new idea in bullet propulsion. This was the golden age of firearms however, when a new idea was born every week, and testing procedures were not standardized.

In July of 1890, Elias’ small staff had produced 10 steam driven cartridges, and the day of testing had arrived. Five men went into Martineau’s backyard, set up a firing bench, a target stand, and one fellow even remembered to bring refreshments and lunch. The very first target was a 30x30 piece of deer hide, held onto the stand with wire.

At the firing line, Elias' men piled boxes of bottles, cans, old shoes and boots, hats and even a small chicken in a cage. After the initial test on the deer hide, these items were to be shot up to demonstrate the accuracy and firepower of the 45 Elias Steamer.

Elias carefully laid out the ten new cartridges on the table. He put on a new shirt, combed his hair and called for his rifle – a well-used Springfield trapdoor. Calvin Victor, his assistant, brought it to him and motioned for the camera. This was a historic moment! That’s when Elias' employees realized that in their haste to construct this new steam driven cartridge, they had forgot to modify a rifle to fire it. So they went home.

Sadly, Elias Martineau would not live to see his dream come true. Two months after the failed test, he was struck and killed by a driverless horse and buggy in the laneway of his farm, while walking to the outhouse.

And now you know the best of the story!


WHo is this Cletus Tenderloin fella Steve? I google fuud him and found his facebook page. There is some wonderfully disturbing stuff mixed in there with his posts.

Is this guy a Canadian Patrick McManus or something?


Shows a remarkable resemblance to Liver Eatin' Johnson!


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Dats what I was thinking...looks like Johnson for sure....


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I would have to say the 270 Win is overrated. To listen to some on here, just touching a 270 will turn you gay within a week. I got a 270 over 35 years ago, before I heard of the rumored gay transformational properties here on the Fire. Even after that time it has not turned me gay. The gayness of the 270 is way overrated.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Dats what I was thinking...looks like Johnson for sure....


Nah, it might be a cousin. Remember, we are talking about La. Oops, did I say that out loud? smile


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Pretty eyes, but she might want to have that uni-brow threaded.


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You guys are easily sidetracked.

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Hope you realize how you are putting in jeopardy the viability of this site and the reputation of the gun writers who so kindly post on this forum. They don't want to have their reputation impugned by having their readers know that they post on sites that tolerate soft porn. Also your selfish attitude is putting in jeopardy this sport that we all like. This site is the largest hunting and shooting site on the web and as such is monitored by the antis. All it takes is a few letters to the sites advertisers to put this site in jeopardy. Your very selfish attitude is destructive to all posters on this site.


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Originally Posted by MissouriEd
Hope you realize how you are putting in jeopardy the viability of this site and the reputation of the gun writers who so kindly post on this forum. They don't want to have their reputation impugned by having their readers know that they post on sites that tolerate soft porn. Also your selfish attitude is putting in jeopardy this sport that we all like. This site is the largest hunting and shooting site on the web and as such is monitored by the antis. All it takes is a few letters to the sites advertisers to put this site in jeopardy. Your very selfish attitude is destructive to all posters on this site.



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Originally Posted by JGray
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Originally Posted by shrapnel
1. 7mm Remington Mag
2. 7mm Remington Mag
3. 7mm Remington Mag
4. 7mm Remington Mag
5. 7mm Remington Mag

and a close #6... 7mm Remington Mag


Pure blasphemy!!!!!!


Sounds like pure truth to me.

Could be something to this - there's always more 7mm RM's for sale on the used rack than anything else. One could say that's because it's so popular it outsells the others so there are more out there. My impression though has been that people that do buy them, move on to something else and don't keep them.

Now to finish reading this silly thread... grin


Yes and also the 270 is for sale on a lot of used racks as is the dearly loved 06 and the 243.

The 7mm RM is bewteen the 270/280 and the 300 Win Mag.

If it has too much kick for pussies, they can load it down to 270 power.



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