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The people have been war weary for quite some time, as evidenced by their unfavorable reaction to Obama's attempt to involve American troops in Syria,...so where's the idiotic part? In the White House?
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Reminds me sorta of the Perky pumping here a few years ago (and then there is Bows who dreams of pumping Perky). Cruz is not going to be the nominee. Trust me on this.
I'd lay money if anyone is foolish enough to take it. Bring it.
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ill bet you a bottle of wine.
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When you win, Roger; you'll lose.
Jackass will send you a bottle of the piss water he has in his crawl space.
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Ted Cruz has as good of a chance to be elected as George Wallace had.
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Maybe, maybe not, but you guys are missing the point. Cruz is, and has been, confirming what America really wants, and what Washington has become. If he stops the RNC and Wall Street from nominating a squish akin to Romney or McCain, that will surely lose, he has done well.
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Cruz's political strategy is really very simple and transparent....... he intends to exploit the smouldering anger re "politics as usual" among the whole electorate. It worked against Dewhurst in Texas and if it doesn't work nationally, it will be because too many other folks are not as smart as Texans. 
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hard to say its what America wants
I will agree its what a segment of the GOP wants (as of now the segment that does not control the purse strings - we should ask who the Kock brothers want?, who does Sheldon Anderson want?) and perhaps a number of moderates and outlier tea party members
but on the whole, as of now - its not enough
He'll have to do ALOT more to win the GOP, while still pulling in moderates and Reagan Democrats.
His best bet is to stay away from the social/morality legislation but I bet he won't be able to.
Its still a long time before things even start to shake out.
I mean just look at this board - Walker was the flavor of the month 3 weeks ago.
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have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings
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hard to say its what America wants
I will agree its what a segment of the GOP wants (as of now the segment that does not control the purse strings - we should ask who the Kock brothers want?, who does Sheldon Anderson want?) and perhaps a number of moderates and outlier tea party members
but on the whole, as of now - its not enough
He'll have to do ALOT more to win the GOP, while still pulling in moderates and Reagan Democrats.
His best bet is to stay away from the social/morality legislation but I bet he won't be able to.
Its still a long time before things even start to shake out.
I mean just look at this board - Walker was the flavor of the month 3 weeks ago. Okay, now that you described "politics as usual", what does Cruz espouse that you believe the majority of Americans don't want?
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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Cruz's political strategy is really very simple and transparent....... he intends to exploit the smouldering anger re "politics as usual" among the whole electorate. It worked against Dewhurst in Texas and if it doesn't work nationally, it will be because too many other folks are not as smart as Texans. He's been doing that for 30 years. At least there isn't a lot of flip-flop baggage to contend with. It will be interesting to see when others announce, since Cruz is taking the full brunt of the Democrat owned media.
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start here http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Ted_Cruz.htm he supports defining what marriage is and is against gay marriage ( I am too but I'm talking about America, not my world view) While I think many people are angry with Obamacare, I still see its repeal as a conservative issue, not a national one (how many times has it been tried to be repealed?). He's anti-immigration (and this isn't a voter thing as much as it is Republicans and Democrats do not want to enforce it) Extending unemployment benefits promotes joblesness He's for raising the retirement age and capping cost of life increases on Social Security to inflation rate and that's without touching on his unconditional support of Israel and hawkish opinions on war. ---------------- So, IMO, its not all that easy to see that he won't have national appeal to moderates and undecided voters who have voted democrat or not voted at all in the past due to them finding the Republican candidate unappealing. And this is coming from someone who is neutral on Cruz. I think he has some good things to say -- although I will admit, I am cynical on every politician so I tend to take a "prove it to me" view of them. It goes back to that 47% Romney was talking about - until any GOP candidate, not just Cruz can tap into that then I don't see how you can say they represent what the majority of Americans want
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What about the 13 million conservatives that have quit voting over the past three elections and the other 30 million that vote against the status quo?
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if you think Ted Cruz represents them, so be it, I won't argue.
But to say he is what America's wants doesn't address that 47%.
have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings
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That 47% is a myth that sunk Romney's battleship. Rubio is to announce next week. It's gonna be interesting to watch the media get spread so thin.
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That 47% is a myth that sunk Romney's battleship. Rubio is to announce next week. It's gonna be interesting to watch the media get spread so thin. I think its a myth to people that think the majority of the country share the same conservative beliefs as they do.
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Don't confuse conservatives with Republicans.
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if you think Ted Cruz represents them, so be it, I won't argue.
But to say he is what America's wants doesn't address that 47%. Sorry, my friend, but your post typifies why Conservatives haven't held the W H [ever?] in decades. The guy suits you but you don't think he'll suit enough other people to win. Do you really think that other right thinking citizens are that much different from you? I'm not letting "47%", or 85%, for that matter, dictate who I want to get the nomination.
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if you think Ted Cruz represents them, so be it, I won't argue.
But to say he is what America's wants doesn't address that 47%. Sorry, my friend, but your post typifies why Conservatives haven't held the W H [ever?] in decades. The guy suits you but you don't think he'll suit enough other people to win. Do you really think that other right thinking citizens are that much different from you? I'm not letting "47%", or 85%, for that matter, dictate who I want to get the nomination. completely irrelevant - my focus is solely on the idea that the views of Ted Cruz represent what America wants versus a subset of what conservatives/Republicans want. and you're telling this to a Ron Paul guy, btw
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That 47% is a myth that sunk Romney's battleship. Rubio is to announce next week. It's gonna be interesting to watch the media get spread so thin. I think its a myth to people that think the majority of the country share the same conservative beliefs as they do. It is no myth that the last two national elections without Obama on the ballot were Conservative landslides. Those numbers prove that best Conservative to come out of the primaries can win the next Conservative landslide.
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SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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Lets imagine this.....
2016 10:46 AM MAR 23, 2015
Let’s Be Serious About Ted Cruz From The Start: He’s Too Extreme And Too Disliked To Win
This is going to be painful for you true believers but here we go.....
By HARRY ENTEN
Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s newly minted presidential campaign is the media equivalent of a juicy rib-eye that robbers use to distract a guard dog during a heist. He’ll get a ton of media attention, and he’ll get to spread his message — which may be all that Cruz is after — but Cruz almost certainly has no shot of winning the nomination, according to every indicator that predicts success in presidential primaries.
Gee, if it's on the internet, it must be ture.
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