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Clueless...

You saying having a 26 year old, with little experience, and neither his family, friends, or the company he works for knowing anything about his past alone in the cockpit of an A320 with 150 peoples lives in his hands is OK!

And I'm clueless....


Phil

You insuiniated his training was lacking.

No simulator time, no observation by an instructor pilot. They just handed him the keys and told him to go fly...

Yes, you are clueless.

I didn't insinuate anything, and I would say the results pretty much back me up!

Phil

Look, if the pilot felt comfortable to leave him at the controls while he exited the cockpit I wouldn't guestion the copilot's flying skills. It wasn't his lack of training or ability that brought the aircraft down.

chit happens people die, it will always be that way.

Having some civilian fixed wing training and military rotor wing training, yes there is a difference. Civilian trained might primarily be fair weather flyers who go out for joyrides to build up time while military have training objectives for flights. While we like to go out for a joyride now and then, sightsee, go somewhere for lunch, we have to throw in some training value along the way for it to be approved.

I don't know where he got most of his flight training, a civilian place or company sponsored program, but civilian flight schools are a business and flight instructors are there to sell you their services. It is on your schedule, your pace, what you can handle. As with any salesman, they want you to like them, be comfortable around them, have you two get along or risk losing your money to another flight instructor they like more. Military flight instructors - some are cool and chill, others are pricks and don't give a damn. You deal with it either way, put up with the stress, the games, the attitudes, the schedules, the curriculum, or you fail.

I do see the point about low time civilian trained commercial pilots, however, he did meet all the requirements and passed their training program. He was a qualified pilot. That is going to be an issue in the next few years or more, airlines finding qualified pilots. Problem is who wants to spend $50-100k on flight training only to get a job that starts as low as $25k a year?


The real issue in this case was his mental stability, not his flying ability or experience. Had he gone military he would have been weeded out and never graduated flight school.

This is not a training or low flight hours issue.

It is a whack-job issue.

The military is certainly not exempt.

Naval test pilot and astronaut:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Nowak

People can't seem to get past the idea that some folks go off the rails and kill other folks. There is no way to prevent it, only hope you aren't there when they do go off the rails, or be able to put a bullet in them when they do.

Doubtful that the video would be any worse than things just about everyone has already seen on TV or in movies.

The audio would be another story.

Pilots who don't want their dicks in the dirt!!

We can all hope it was one of the POS that video police officers to make them look bad as they do what they do.

Yep, no problems with mental fitness among those who have been approved to pilot aircraft by the US Military.

This video (and others like it that may be found) will eventually be used as evidence in civil claims against the airline.

No one should determine what you can or can not watch. The video should be posted somewhere. If you don't want to see it, don't look at it.

What airline? I'll bet they file Chapter XX inside of a couple months. They were already in serious financial trouble.

And it just got worse for the airline as they were told of the man's illness 6 years ago. You can write off Germanwings/Lufthansa!

I hope Christie gets in and gives them a bailout.

RogueHunter,



A man after my own heart.

It seems to me a simple solution is to add a bathroom to the cockpit. It need not be fancy. Railroad heads crap in a bag....I think the airlines can move the door back enough to take a duece. They don't need the jump seat up there.

You wouldn't be able to pay F/O's enough to fly with me.