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Thanks Ron. I took early at 62 and will be 66,my full retirement age in about three weeks. Income may soon go way high. A lot more than I need. Would not need SS.

And of course, an unintended side effect of means testing would be the removal of a whole lot of capital from our society as old people scaled back on what they earned to get under the means testing so that they could draw their SS.

I know of one man that did not deem that he needed it, so it is given to a worthwhile charity. I will not give his name, but he is a good man. miles

as I said, it shouldn't event be means testing.

once I retire, if I want to work and have the ability to do so, it should have no bearing on my rights to access money I paid into a mandatory retirement plan.

I haven't read the whole thread so forgive me if I am making a point someone else has already made. But, the only way Social Security remains viable is if everyone retains the belief that someday, no matter what, they'll get what they paid into it back to a degree. Yes, we know it might go bankrupt. Yes, we know they might raise the age. Yes, we would all rather have our money now and do other things with it. But, if you remove the idea that it is for everyone and is just for those too poor to have anything else, THEN [bleep] YOU.

It is bad enough that you are going to take my fricking money my whole life. And you know, it used to be that if you made a decent living, it would cap out. But now, it is all the way up to $117k this year before it caps out. So, most people are paying it on all their incomes. But anyway, you are going to take my money from me my whole life and deny me the opportunity to really prepare well for retirement. But, if I do manage to prepare a little so that I am not in penury in my old age, you are going to penalize me for that and steal my money? [bleep] you.

I don't care if it goes bankrupt. If you are going to turn it into nothing else but another welfare program, you can go frick yourself and I'll keep my money.

exactly and it's why I don't dare figure in SS benefits into our retirement

self employed have been sending in 15% of salary for the last 30 odd years for me and the missus both.

now tell me how I'm seeking an "entitlement"

thieving cocksuckas called politicians steal more from you than a guy with a ski mask and a .38 ever dreamed of!

SS keeps going because .gov keeps forcing folks to pay to play.

I am 67, wife 68. We are not in our late 40's. Whoever thinks 60 is the new 40 ain't tried it yet. Slight cataracts, hearing going, arthritis, and on. I still work, pay in, and draw less than those ads on TV say I would have if I had just put my "pocket change" in whatever accounts. The employers sure as heck figured SS into what they paid me, and what benefits they think I need for retirement.

Did you miss my rant? I completely agree. Frick Christy. I don't give a schit if it fails or not. I paid my money, at least pretend to pay it back to me.

There will be a revolt in this country eventually as the productive class gets tired of being used like a cart horse for everyone else and the political class.

But you will pay, if you income is enough, income tax on it, so you still don't get the full amount. I should restate that, you get it but don't get to keep it. I am paying over 20% of mine and my wife's back as income tax. It varies a little from year to year but always over 20%. Now I paid income tax on this money when I earned it the first time, and it is not in an account bearing interest, it is not earned money, so I am confused as to why it is taxable. miles

I think Christie is just being honest about it. You huff and puff all you want about how much you paid in to and how it owed to you but it doesn't matter because the money was taken and spent on other things by the government. Changes need to be make to make it actuarially sound but I don't think the political will is there. I think the government will take the easy way out and just continue to print massive amounts of money and devalue the currency. You'll still get the benefit you were "promised" but it only worth a fraction of what you thought it was going to be because of inflation and a rigged COLA calculation.

Social security payments when working are pretax.

Question, at 66 my taxable income may go up, a lot up. Can I just stop my SS? Tell them to just keep it?

I think Christie is just being honest about it. You huff and puff all you want about how much you paid in to and how it owed to you but it doesn't matter because the money was taken and spent on other things by the government. Changes need to be make to make it actuarially sound but I don't think the political will is there. I think the government will take the easy way out and just continue to print massive amounts of money and devalue the currency. You'll still get the benefit you were "promised" but it only worth a fraction of what you thought it was going to be because of inflation and a rigged COLA calculation.