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Originally Posted by sherp
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Well, continue to stir the pot to no good end. SecNav is here today, gone tomorrow. Irrelevant as a tick on a dog's butt. Just as knowledgeable as McNamara.


Over half a million Americans plus their friends and families would disagree about Robert McNamara being irrelevant.


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Slurp, how long have you suffered from Comprehension Deficit Disorder? Is it painful? Hope so, but best of luck regardless.


Over half a million Americans got sent to Vietnam and he played a major role in getting them there. What part of that do you not comprehend?


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Slurp, GTF off this thread.


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Slurp, GTF off this website.


Fixed it for ya


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Slurp, GTF off this thread.



Why are you upset that McNamara has significant clout?


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Originally Posted by sherp
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Slurp, GTF off this thread.



Why are you upset that McNamara has significant clout?


Unless I have gooks in the wire, or I'm on fire, nothing really upsets me anymore, dork.
But, you're sort of like King Midas, with the glaring exception everything you touch turns toshit and you are bringing nothing to this thread other than like you, McNamara should have been told to GFY a long time ago. Now go back to zip-locking shower pistols, Chris...


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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Curious on how you'd preprogram a drone for CAS...


You just program it to deploy itself to the loiter point, so the kid with the xbox controller can take it in for it's run. After it's out of fuel and ammo, he just pushes triangle, (or is it circle) to send it back to rearm and refuel as he picks up control of the next CAS drone to continue supporting our ground troops and killing bad guys.


I was looking at CAS in context with this post...


"Just point'em at what you want attacked - i.e. GPS coordinates or whatever - and they do the rest without a human pilot either in a cockpit or 5,000 miles away in a control room. No outside data link, no jamming them.

There will always be a need for manned aircraft for certain missions but for ground attack or CAS which are very high risk missions, especially with the portable anti-air capabilities available to even guerrilla forces these days, it makes sense to have a smaller, extremely maneuverable vehicle capable of G-force turns no human could stand, and without the risk of a very expensive to train pilot becoming a casualty or POW."




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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by sherp
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Slurp, GTF off this thread.



Why are you upset that McNamara has significant clout?


Unless I have gooks in the wire, or I'm on fire, nothing really upsets me anymore, dork.
But, you're sort of like King Midas, with the glaring exception everything you touch turns toshit and you are bringing nothing to this thread other than like you, McNamara should have been told to GFY a long time ago. Now go back to zip-locking shower pistols, Chris...


It is obvious things still upset you.

No pistols in the shower for me. No problem that you have one hidden inside you at all times.

Why should McNamara " been told to GFY a long time ago" exactly?


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Originally Posted by Hawk_Driver
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Slurp, GTF off this website.


Fixed it for ya


Chriss got pissy when folks started talking about his real life, so he left as TRH and came back as this POS.

He won't leave, and Rick won't kick him off unless he starts posting porn, bashing on Catholics, or maybe slaps a little duct tape on the corners of his dog's eyes.

He exists, here and now, for no other reason than to disrupt this site and to give other folks here heartburn.


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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Originally Posted by AJ300MAG
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by AJ300MAG
Curious on how you'd preprogram a drone for CAS...


You just program it to deploy itself to the loiter point, so the kid with the xbox controller can take it in for it's run. After it's out of fuel and ammo, he just pushes triangle, (or is it circle) to send it back to rearm and refuel as he picks up control of the next CAS drone to continue supporting our ground troops and killing bad guys.


I was looking at CAS in context with this post...


"Just point'em at what you want attacked - i.e. GPS coordinates or whatever - and they do the rest without a human pilot either in a cockpit or 5,000 miles away in a control room. No outside data link, no jamming them.

There will always be a need for manned aircraft for certain missions but for ground attack or CAS which are very high risk missions, especially with the portable anti-air capabilities available to even guerrilla forces these days, it makes sense to have a smaller, extremely maneuverable vehicle capable of G-force turns no human could stand, and without the risk of a very expensive to train pilot becoming a casualty or POW."





A point being missed by some here and certainly by the SecNav is that CAS is a synergistic affair between those in need of support and those delivering same. It is also very fluid and the technology does not exist now nor will it in the foreseeable future which empowers drones with human insight and the on site decision making capability that is required. It is not as simple as putting ordnance on a target, not by a long shot. Maybe put yourself on the ground in a bad situation and tell me whether you'd prefer a UAV or pilot to deliver the goods 10 meters from your frontal position. Maybe tell the UAV you need a medivac after the ordinance is expended? Good luck with that.

Using a UAV for CAS is a BS idea and little more. Combat is a lot more complicated that theoreticians imagine. It is the warrior that can snatch victory from chaos, not a farking machine.


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I suspect unmanned, autonomous, aircraft probably don't worry much about who they are told to shoot and where. The way things are going with government, I'd rather have a pilot in the aircraft.


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Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by Hawk_Driver
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Slurp, GTF off this website.


Fixed it for ya


Chriss got pissy when folks started talking about his real life, so he left as TRH and came back as this POS.

He won't leave, and Rick won't kick him off unless he starts posting porn, bashing on Catholics, or maybe slaps a little duct tape on the corners of his dog's eyes.

He exists, here and now, for no other reason than to disrupt this site and to give other folks here heartburn.


Not TRH or Chriss so lucky for you Rick doesn't ban people for being wrong repeatedly.

Why would I give you or anyone like you heartburn. I praise the same people and groups you and others like you do.


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Originally Posted by Szumi
Originally Posted by kciH
I suspect unmanned, autonomous, aircraft probably don't worry much about who they are told to shoot and where. The way things are going with government, I'd rather have a pilot in the aircraft.


Someone that swore the oath!



A robot can be programmed to wear the oath just as much as a man can be. Fortunately, keeping things running smooth would be more important than the oath to either.


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Originally Posted by sherp

Why does it bother you that McNamara had so much control over the lives of so many?


Love your avoiding of that question.

You're the cockhound of all cockhounds.



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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by sherp

Why does it bother you that McNamara had so much control over the lives of so many?


Love your avoiding of that question.

You're the cockhound of all cockhounds.



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I am not avoiding the question about McNamara. I asked it, several others are avoiding it.

Not avoiding your repeated requests for gay sex either since I keep telling you that I am not a homosexual like you are. Plenty of other here seem to be wired that way so you should have more success getting a date with them.


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Treason among other things.


I am..........disturbed.

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And SECNAV, aside the fact he is an obama appointee, has ZERO flying OR combat experience, so like slerp, he spews...


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
And SECNAV, aside the fact he is an obama appointee, has ZERO flying OR combat experience, so like slerp, he spews...


Why compare me to him? I know you can be counted on to do anything you are ordered to do, but not everyone is like that so real deal robots(not just humans who have characteristics worthy of the moniker) have a place in combat and may be better than US citizens for that purpose.


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Slurp, You need to chow down on a couple pounds of Ex-Lax.


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Slurp, You need to chow down on a couple pounds of Ex-Lax.


Why would you say that? For pointing out the clout that McNamara possessed?


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Originally Posted by Szumi
Originally Posted by kciH
I suspect unmanned, autonomous, aircraft probably don't worry much about who they are told to shoot and where. The way things are going with government, I'd rather have a pilot in the aircraft.


Someone that swore the oath!


That seems to matter little as late, but I put more faith in Americans than our last few presidents.


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