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RIFLE ACCURACY FACTS, by Harold R. Vaughan... THE ULTIMATE IN RIFLE ACCURACY by Glenn Newick Both very good books!
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FYI, I did shoot all 50 rounds of Tubbs Final Finish through the rifle that got me to thinking about this in the first place. The barrel is now like glass, cleans up much easier, a AND based on two 3-shot groups it appears to shoot better. Next steps are to apply DBC, shoot it in and ensure its sighted in.
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no the way to understand accuracy is to get a remington and put a Krieger barrel on it then shoot it. 6ppc , 222 , 308 6.5-284.
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no get a sako 85 in 6ppc.
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What makes a rifle accurate , the Gunsmith you use to build it, some are just better than other. Today's factory rifle will group as good or better than pre 50's benchrest rifle
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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I've seldom seen glass bedding markedly improve accuracy. If glass bedding don't improve accuracy why do benchrest shooter do it? Every gun I ever glass bedded and that's been a lot always shot better with it done.
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Glass bedding helps if there's a bedding problem, not so much if the existing bedding is working.
I've never seen a glass bedding job hurt accuracy, only help.
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And that's if the glass bedding is done right, not everyone can glass bed and do it right. I have zero movement on my dial indicator when done right. That 0.0, some bench shooter say that .002 is good enough. Every factory rifle I ever checked even Remington 40X's have problems.
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Too much time is wasted on theory and supposition. Pictures of groups only look good on the Campfire. The best thing to do is drive out into the field, drink a can of Coke and throw it out the window. Drive until you are about as far as you would normally shoot and shoot at the can until you can hit it. Then go shooting and fine tune the rifle if it needs it. Results are what you are after, save the pictures for the guys that can't shoot...
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Too much time is wasted on theory and supposition. Pictures of groups only look good on the Campfire. The best thing to do is drive out into the field, drink a can of Coke and throw it out the window. Drive until you are about as far as you would normally shoot and shoot at the can until you can hit it. Then go shooting and fine tune the rifle if it needs it. Results are what you are after, save the pictures for the guys that can't shoot... Some critter just had a bad day. Could have been someone's mother... DF
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I concur....
You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......
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get a a rifle like this.....http://www.accurateshooter.com/featured/f-open-champ-kenny-adams-7mm-rsaum/
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I came home Thursday afternoon to a box full of reading material. Big thanks for Powdr for sharing his books. They will be well read in a short time! One big example of what is good about this place.
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Glass bedding helps if there's a bedding problem, not so much if the existing bedding is working.
I've never seen a glass bedding job hurt accuracy, only help.
DF This and It will keep accuracy stable across different environments'. Snake
That which does not kill us makes us stronger
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