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offered today (under 10x) if price is not a factor? Thanks...
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U.S.Optics certainly deserves mention. I was absolutely impressed with their products... Top notch. http://www.usoptics.com/optics.htmlCustom made for you, right here in the USA.
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Price is rarely not a factor. Regardless of income...price matters. But the answer is, most men above 35 won't be able to appreciate the optical benefits of a S&B for more than 5 years.
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IMO, it really depends on the ultimate use for the scope. For instance weather you are hunting whitetail at last light from a tree stand or your chasing DG in the bush where the weigtn and balance are more critical. If I was to pick one It would be a Trijicon 3x9.
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Leupold 6x36 or 6x42. I haven't decided which I prefer yet.
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But the answer is, most men above 35 won't be able to appreciate the optical benefits of a S&B for more than 5 years.
Where the hell do you get this dipshidt stuff??? I have had a Schmidt and Bender for more than five years and I still appreciate the benefits of it. For my money, any of the high end Euros in a 1.5-6x42 formula is awful close to as good as it gets for glass. and as perfect as I have seen for Minnesota deer hunting. They can be a little on the heavy side, they are pricey, and if they ever do need service, they might have to go back to Europe. But... they all come with an unlimited transferable warranty, they are bright, they are rugged, they are clear and sharp, they have excellent eye relief and I have yet to see one that didn't track perfectly. I prefer them to the 2.5-10s.
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For a hunting scope, take a look at the Trijicon hunting scopes with the illuminated green center. Last August I killed a huge Cape Buffalo at (they said) 10 yards and all I really remember is putting the green center on his chest and the gun went off.
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But the answer is, most men above 35 won't be able to appreciate the optical benefits of a S&B for more than 5 years.
Where the hell do you get this dipshidt stuff??? I have had a Schmidt and Bender for more than five years and I still appreciate the benefits of it. For my money, any of the high end Euros in a 1.5-6x42 formula is awful close to as good as it gets for glass. and as perfect as I have seen for Minnesota deer hunting. They can be a little on the heavy side, they are pricey, and if they ever do need service, they might have to go back to Europe. But... they all come with an unlimited transferable warranty, they are bright, they are rugged, they are clear and sharp, they have excellent eye relief and I have yet to see one that didn't track perfectly. I prefer them to the 2.5-10s. The vast majority of males over the age of 40 suffer diminished response to light. As we age our eyes ability to pull in light reduces. Therefore a scope allowing lots of light transmission is wasted. With aging there is an increase in absorption throughout the visible such that by the sixth decade only 20% of blue light is transmitted to the retina compared to the young primate eye. In low light, the human eye can typically dilate to 5mm – 7mm. The exact amount of dilation varies with the individual, and typically declines, with increasing age, from 7mm (at age 20) to a dark-adapted pupil of about 5.5mm by age 65. To take full advantage of a scope’s light-gathering capacity, the diameter of an eyepiece exit pupil should be no larger than the max diameter of your eye’s dark-adapted pupil, so that all of the light collected by the scope enters your eye, rather than falling on the iris. A large 8mm exit pupil may seem good, but it would be partly “wasted” on a shooter in his 60s.
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But the answer is, most men above 35 won't be able to appreciate the optical benefits of a S&B for more than 5 years.
Where the hell do you get this dipshidt stuff??? I have had a Schmidt and Bender for more than five years and I still appreciate the benefits of it. For my money, any of the high end Euros in a 1.5-6x42 formula is awful close to as good as it gets for glass. and as perfect as I have seen for Minnesota deer hunting. They can be a little on the heavy side, they are pricey, and if they ever do need service, they might have to go back to Europe. But... they all come with an unlimited transferable warranty, they are bright, they are rugged, they are clear and sharp, they have excellent eye relief and I have yet to see one that didn't track perfectly. I prefer them to the 2.5-10s. The vast majority of males over the age of 40 suffer diminished response to light. As we age our eyes ability to pull in light reduces. Therefore a scope allowing lots of light transmission is wasted. With aging there is an increase in absorption throughout the visible such that by the sixth decade only 20% of blue light is transmitted to the retina compared to the young primate eye. In low light, the human eye can typically dilate to 5mm – 7mm. The exact amount of dilation varies with the individual, and typically declines, with increasing age, from 7mm (at age 20) to a dark-adapted pupil of about 5.5mm by age 65. To take full advantage of a scope’s light-gathering capacity, the diameter of an eyepiece exit pupil should be no larger than the max diameter of your eye’s dark-adapted pupil, so that all of the light collected by the scope enters your eye, rather than falling on the iris. A large 8mm exit pupil may seem good, but it would be partly “wasted” on a shooter in his 60s. This is the classic example of you not understanding what the hell you read. A brighter scope is a brighter scope. Period end discussion. If your eye doesn't dilate enough to take advantage of a larger exit pupil doesn't make a brighter scope dimmer. That's something that very much follows the pattern of taking in information and getting lost in it to where you lose track of the simple part. A 1.5-6x42 S&B is still going to be brighter than a 1.5-6x42 Bushnell regardless of how old your eyes are. At least until Bushnell starts to put a similar amount of time and money into glass, coatings and construction. Bushnell could forego the quality improvements were this not true and their $150 scope would be every bit as good as the $1500 Zeiss/Swaro/S&B/Meopta but for the unlimited lifetime warranty. Bushnell could simply offer the same warranty and chances are they'd come out well ahead dollar wise just sending out a new scope every year or so and selling their Cheapo for $1500 too. Most people aren't going to put very many rounds through a rifle/scope combo that they'd break the scope quickly and most of those rounds wouldn't be heavy recoilers. A brighter scope will always be just that when you compare them apples to apples, lens size to lens size. Otherwise everyone who wanted a brighter scope would just have to buy a bigger objective lens and a little more magnification. It doesn't work as simply as you think. My Nikon Monarch gold 2.5-10x50 has less useful brightness bright as any of my 1.5-6x42 Euros at it's brightest, and it's that way for everyone who has looked through both. And, that is irrelevant to how they have the exit pupil set. If your eyes go dim like your brain, you can compensate to some extent by going to a brighter scope while maintaining all else equal. YOUR brain on the other hand does not seem capable of accepting more input and making sense of it.
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But the answer is, most men above 35 won't be able to appreciate the optical benefits of a S&B for more than 5 years.
Where the hell do you get this dipshidt stuff??? I have had a Schmidt and Bender for more than five years and I still appreciate the benefits of it. For my money, any of the high end Euros in a 1.5-6x42 formula is awful close to as good as it gets for glass. and as perfect as I have seen for Minnesota deer hunting. They can be a little on the heavy side, they are pricey, and if they ever do need service, they might have to go back to Europe. But... they all come with an unlimited transferable warranty, they are bright, they are rugged, they are clear and sharp, they have excellent eye relief and I have yet to see one that didn't track perfectly. I prefer them to the 2.5-10s. The vast majority of males over the age of 40 suffer diminished response to light. As we age our eyes ability to pull in light reduces. Therefore a scope allowing lots of light transmission is wasted. Quite to the contrary. Our eyes never "pull in" light. And, if anything, aging eyes will benefit even more from more light (but it's true, they'll never be as good as they were when they were better.)
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Actually there is some truth so what he said but only from a standpoint of how well each age group will see through a high end and a mid grade scope. The younger group will be able to see better than the older group, but it is the difference between the two age groups that will not change. Younger group can see, lets say a 20% difference between the two scopes and so will the older group.
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