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Another silly-azzed thread. Go buy a box of 50 210 gr Partition's and dial in said rifle and shoot deer, elk, moose and bear and, assuming one can hit, kill 30 critters with said box. Save a nickel otherwise. Not gonna buy the 210, SPS don't have them on sale. I guess the 225 Accubonds will have to work. I mentioned a ways back in this thread that I was getting some to try out.
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Another silly-azzed thread. Go buy a box of 50 210 gr Partition's and dial in said rifle and shoot deer, elk, moose and bear and, assuming one can hit, kill 30 critters with said box. Save a nickel otherwise. Smart man. Thanks Ed
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By "higher end",and "premium" do we mean bullets that expand when they are supposed to,and penetrate deeper than they might sometimes need to, instead of flying to flinders when they hit something? I'm trying to recall when uniform expansion and penetration became bad things(?).We've been trying to achieve both since we first wrapped lead cores in alloy envelopes so they'd withstand high velocity trips down a rifled bore. 100+ years later, we're still doing the same things. Maybe if I were culling does by the hundreds, or 500 donkeys in 10 days in Australia I'd be concerned about the price of bullets;but for most hunting we get to do,worrying about the cost of a bullet fired from a $2000 rifle, under a $1000 scope,on a hunt taking your time and/or money (or both), seems to me to be like Obamanomics. What skews the conversation is that some animals end up dead even when hit with shiddtt bullets. (See Kliks post above). This leads to false and deceptive conclusions because eventually you will run out of luck. YMMV. Superb post! makes way too much sense for any of us to hear it. Should be permanent because this subject regularly comes around.
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All the critters I shot with my 338-06 using 200gr Hornady, 210gr NP, and 210 TSX ended up dead. Are premiums necessary? No, Yes, sometimes & maybe. A gentleman and his daughter both successfully used 180gr BT's out of a 338-06 on their Bison. I was duly impressed when a 210 TSX shattered the front ball joint on an elk, continued through the lungs and liver and exited. Shoot what you like, like what you shoot, and remember shot placement typically trumps. I know I have had more rodeos due to shot placement than bullet failure.
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Shoot what you like, like what you shoot, and remember shot placement typically trumps.
And remember that the best safety net you've got if a shot isn't perfectly placed is the bullet's performance. Anyone who has killed a few big animals under a variety of conditions can understand why John Nosler came up with "a better bullet". The reality of shot placement is the only reason the 223 isn't recommended as a "do all" rifle for everything in North America; it can- and has- worked on everything. I've never used too much gun or too good a bullet however.
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I've never used too much gun or too good a bullet however. Amen! Bob www.bigbores.ca
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A gentleman and his daughter both successfully used 180gr BT's out of a 338-06 on their Bison.
Can you elaborate? I was just playing with some launched at just under 2800 and they performed really well. Have not read much about actual on game performance. I also have some 180 ABs on the way from SPS.
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Well I broke down and ordered a few of the Nosler 225 Accubonds while SPS has them on sale. They oughtta work just fine for deer and wapiti. I used that bullet in my 338-06 on grizzly and a blackie a handful of years ago with complete satisfaction.
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This was more than a few years ago. Close to 15.
I wish I would have asked more question when I ran into the gentleman at my taxidermist shop.
I was more intrigued with the two huge hides and skulls on the shop floor.
I asked him what he used and told me. This was all before I was a true looney and simply chalked it up to a mental note that it obviously worked because of the critters laying on the floor.
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^^Thanks. Obviously worked!
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