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In a bolt gun, a near max charge of W748 or H335.
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Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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In a couple guns.......50BT, 26.5-27.0/VV133, IMI, Rem7-1/2BR.....14" twist. Approach carefully.
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H335 will normally group well, but so will TAC, with just about the same charges. I've been using 26.0 TAC for a few years and haven't encountered a rifle that wouldn't shoot it well. Also discovered a couple-three years ago that one of the major bullet companies uses TAC as their standard powder for testing 50-grain bullet accuracy in the .223.
More recently, 23.0 grains of Accurate LT-32 has proven VERY accurate in more than one .223 with 50 BT's. Velocities are a little slower than with TAC and H335, but not enough to matter to a prairie dog or coyote.
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Nice to see you like the LT-32 MD. Mine likes it too. 23.5 grs. LT32 w/ 50 BT's works fantastic 25.8 grs Benchmark is also. 335 ain't bad, but it's dirty 8208XBR works but only max + a pinch with mag primer for me.
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AA 2015 BR 24.2 grains with a 50-55 shoots very well in every 223 I have tried. 2208 and H4895 produce similar results
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H335 and i could care less about it being so called dirty , because i clean my rifles every 20 to 30 rounds , old habits are hard to break. I have been able to get Tac to group as well as H335
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I have a Rock River arms Lar 15, with 25.1 gr of Benchmark and the Nosler BT varmit bullet it shoots groups that average half inch. However best group that I have shot so far was with the Sierra 52 gr HPBT match king, 25 gr Benchmark resulted in a group that measured .295, same load shot a group at 300 yards that measured 1.895.
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H335 and i could care less about it being so called dirty , because i clean my rifles every 20 to 30 rounds , old habits are hard to break. I have been able to get Tac to group as well as H335 Try some Dyna Bore Coat and keep shooting. Every 20-30 rounds and I'd give up shooting.
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I run 4895 under 50 BKs and VMs, they shoot great as that seems to be the optimum burn rate (or something). 335 was the same way, but I don't shoot it any more. One too many really hard bolt lifts for no good reason. TAC is also impressive under 50s. All loads just under official book maximums.
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max or near max loads of Benchmark are my most accurate loading
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not the same burn rate, so not the same charges, but also not the same issues ( like hard bolt lifts due to pressure spikes in hot weather, dirty etc), but an old Benchrest Shooters Standby, H 322....
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Certainly not the fastest at 3,150 fps, but 25.5 grains 2230, Fed. brass, and CCI standard primer has proven accurate in a Ruger bolt-action.
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a full case of varget with the 50's works well for me.
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It's interesting that Ramshot TAC is recommended sometimes, but very few people seem to try Ramshot X-Terminator. In .223 and 5.56, for all weights up to mid-60 grain bullets, I've found X-Terminator to give better accuracy and slightly more velocity than TAC, 748, or H335. Both TAC and X-Terminator seem to give best accuracy with max loads.
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