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They are tougher.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I weighed an FX-3 6x42 the other day, because of a similar thread, and it's about an ounce lighter than the 3-5-10x40. Dunno why Leupold's website lists a heavier weight. It's not much difference but there it is.

I have now had 16 different brands of scopes fail on various rifles, totally due to recoil, not falling on them or bouncing them off walls, rocks or trees. Sometimes several scopes of one brand failed, which means the total number of broken scopes is far more than 16. I can still count on one hand the fixed-power scopes that failed purely from shooting, and I've used a lot of fixed powers.

But that's just my experience, and I'll freely admit to being a bad-scope magnet.


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John, killed one 4X,a M8 that lived on a 300 and 338 Win mag. Both those rifles got shot quite a bit,and hunted as well.A magnum wildcat 35 finished it off.

I have not kept track as well as you have, but have had enough variables go TU due to recoil that it left an impression. smile




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I use the LRD which, on variables, requires max power setting to be in scale.

I had a 4.5-14x42mm set on minimum power (as is my habit in the field) and had no problem making a 200 yd shot on a pronghorn.

I realized it was rare for me to adjust magnification in the field and the only reason I'd need to was the reticle. Why not simplify things to fixed 6Xs?

All my main hunting rifles have them now.

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Imteresting. Aside from those that impacted with hard parts of terra firma, I've had a few scopes resign due to recoil, but the memorable one for me was a fixed 4x--a S&B Klassic. Lasted fifteen shots out of the box.


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Unfortunate. I hope it was at the range and not in front of game. Maybe I'm a wuss but who here "dials in" their scope when in the field and a trophy deer steps out of the shadows?

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Unfortunate. I hope it was at the range and not in front of game. Maybe I'm a wuss but who here "dials in" their scope when in the field and a trophy deer steps out of the shadows?



All the time. About half the animals that I kill I dial for the shot.


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Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

Imteresting. Aside from those that impacted with hard parts of terra firma, I've had a few scopes resign due to recoil, but the memorable one for me was a fixed 4x--a S&B Klassic. Lasted fifteen shots out of the box.



George they are still made by people,fixed or variable,and sometimes anything will be defective right out of the box.





The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Originally Posted by Lockhart
Unfortunate. I hope it was at the range and not in front of game. Maybe I'm a wuss but who here "dials in" their scope when in the field and a trophy deer steps out of the shadows?

I'm not much of a deer hunter. But the nicest red deer I've seen fell after I dialed the scope up to full power because I only had a gap of about 5 inches shoot through at the vitals in between trees.

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Have shot a good few pigs at a couple hundred yards however caught with the scope on 2x. Still worked.

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FX3 :

Three less lenses than the variable's. Which means 6 less lens surfaces to hog the light transmission. Not counting less complex alignment of the variable mechanism. The #3 fixed comes with Lupy's best coatings and gas. Plus a few other top features from them. I can tell the difference in a side by side comparison. As I age, I have switched out a few variables for the FX3.


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

Imteresting. Aside from those that impacted with hard parts of terra firma, I've had a few scopes resign due to recoil, but the memorable one for me was a fixed 4x--a S&B Klassic. Lasted fifteen shots out of the box.



George they are still made by people,fixed or variable,and sometimes anything will be defective right out of the box.



Very true Bob. However, I'm one of the few mortals who've seen both a Remington extractor and bolt handle decide to leave home.

We sib's used to kid our parents as having some electromechanical curse because every gifted appliance they recieved would soon break down in some bizarre way.

Apparently, it's genetic.

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I've heard of people who were wristwatch killers.

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I've heard of people who were wristwatch killers.
'flave does full auto style recoil testing on his watches...

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The fixed magnification 6X obsession is by the few guys who have poor eyesight and require a minimum of 6X!

Use what scope you see best with and not what someone with weak eyes must use.

Then selecting a lens the eye specialist asks US: "What lens do you see better with? A or B?, A or C? cool


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Originally Posted by Savage_99
The fixed magnification 6X obsession is by the few poor guys who have poor eyesight and require a minimum of 6X!

Use what scope you see best with and not what someone with weak eyes must use.

Then selecting a lens the eye specialist asks US: "What lens do you see better with? A or B?, A or C? cool


WTF is this idiot talking about now?


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Maybe he's talking about me. My eyesight is so bad I can only hold .5 to .6 MOA for five shot groups at 300 yards with 6x.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

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Originally Posted by Savage_99
The fixed magnification 6X obsession is by the few poor guys who have poor eyesight and require a minimum of 6X!

Use what scope you see best with and not what someone with weak eyes must use.

Then selecting a lens the eye specialist asks US: "What lens do you see better with? A or B?, A or C? cool


WTF is this idiot talking about now?


They must be pumping some toxic chemicals into the connecticut public drinking water .

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Heck, I don't know. Seems from my recollection that a fixed 4x has served be pretty well, and would do better than 80% of the time.

Even so, most of my scopes are variables. They just seem more versatile since I hunt quite a variety of terrain. Guess I'm lucky in that only one Leupy variable has let me down.


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Originally Posted by Savage_99
The fixed magnification 6X obsession is by the few guys who have poor eyesight and require a minimum of 6X!

Use what scope you see best with and not what someone with weak eyes must use.

Then selecting a lens the eye specialist asks US: "What lens do you see better with? A or B?, A or C? cool


Why the hate? I personally find a 6x to be my goldilocks magnification for general use. Never heard of any 6x aficionado claim it was perfection for everyone and everything. Buy whichever scope suites your fancy, Savage_99

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