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My first post here but have "been looking" for quite a while. I owned a Cooper 52 Classic in 25-06 and currently own a Cooper 52 Custom Classic in 30-06. I sold the former because I wasn't crazy with the caliber. I also splurged when I bought the Custom Classic with the Swarovski Z6.

I looked at virtually every custom and semi-custom rifle out there and for the price, the Cooper IMO is the finest rifle you can buy. Target rifle accuracy with old school good looks. My 30-06 shoots like a laser beam. They're fairly heavy, manly rifles with a medium weight barrel. Every year I browse other brands and have been tempted to get a Kimber Montana. But I know a Cooper will shoot straight out of the box and now that I'm used to their feel, I think I'll stick with them. I'd like to get an Excalibur next, most likely in 30-06 as well.

I'll post my sighting in targets for you separately.

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Duke76, welcome to the Campfire.


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That's a 3 shot group at a lasered 104 yards. I never had to move the windage after installing the Talley mounts. They perfectly lined up horizontally. I only had to adjust elevation.

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one more pic for good measure (I really like Cooper rifles if you can't tell!) Served me well on a Texas deer hunt. Killed one decent 8 point and two does.

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That is a beauty - nice shooting.

The only problem I have with Coopers is that they are incredibly boring - mount the scope, adjust it to desired point of impact and shoot. I like to have rifles with challenges so in addition to my Coopers I am constantly buying some other brand so that I have something to tinker with trying to make it shoot like Coopers do out the box.

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I'm sure I'll be the odd one out when it comes to Coopers. I had a Model 52 in .30-06 and it shot just ok. I got in touch with them, shipped it back, and they re-barreled it. The new barrel shot just like you would expect them to, and pretty much like the others have posted here. So, great customer service for me. I thought the rifle was a bit heavy but I carried it around for two seasons chasing elk here in MT. I shot a couple of cows with it and it did just fine, but then again, the distances weren't too difficult. My biggest complaint was the safety. It was pretty easy to move it to the fire position. In fact, I twice found that the safety had moved off safe while hiking around the mountains. In 30+ years of hunting, I have never had a safety do that on any of my rifles. I was more than happy to sell the rifle shortly after that. I'm not disparaging the folks that are happy with them; I just wanted to you to let you know about the one issue that I found. It was a deal-breaker for me.

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Cooper is a well made and well fitted rifle. I have had two of them and liked them both but not for the money they cost. Accuracy was good but not exceptional. Their included targets are shot at either 40 or 60 yards, not 100. There are far more shots taken than just the three they send to you.

As some have said, the rifles are fairly heavy.

The one thing I have not seen mentioned, and maybe it was just me, was the cheesy, cheap magazines. You would think for a rifle like Cooper is supposed to be, they would either have a floor plate or a blind magazine.


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Originally Posted by boliep
Cooper is a well made and well fitted rifle. I have had two of them and liked them both but not for the money they cost. Accuracy was good but not exceptional. Their included targets are shot at either 40 or 60 yards, not 100. There are far more shots taken than just the three they send to you.

As some have said, the rifles are fairly heavy.

The one thing I have not seen mentioned, and maybe it was just me, was the cheesy, cheap magazines. You would think for a rifle like Cooper is supposed to be, they would either have a floor plate or a blind magazine.



The mags on mine have been all steel, heavy and rugged, and have never malfunctioned. They do have a bit of a custom, hand made feel to them though so I can see why you might say that. I've seen several newer rifles with all plastic mags and they sure seem cheap looking to me. I'm guessing Cooper considers a detachable mag as an upgrade and makes unloading easier. I can see though that if you drop one down a hillside you now have a single shot.

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I can only comment on my Coopers accuracy. It's a Model 21 Montana varmiter in .221FB, and while not for deer, maybe it'll help you grasp a coopers potential for accuracy. 5 shots each @ 100
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Today, I talked to the nice lady at Cooper. I asked her about pricing on the configuration I want and the process for ordering. She said that the proof targets included with the rifles are from 50 yds. She also went on to say the accuracy is guaranteed. Anyway, tomorrow I am biting the bullet and contacting an authorized dealer and proceeding with my order. It will be:

Model 54 Excalibur
Stainless receiver
Stainless fluted barrel
Tan with black highlights composite Classic stock
7mm-08 Rem chambering
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One suggestion when ordering; have cooper supply and fit a 2nd magazine. When hunting, it's nice to have one in the gun and one in your pocket for a quick reload. They only hold three rounds. Plus, if you were to lose one, you won't be out of business.


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i think that's a super cooper recipe.

+1 on lastround's suggestion on an extra magazine.

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Originally Posted by drakecasey
I'm sure I'll be the odd one out when it comes to Coopers. I had a Model 52 in .30-06 and it shot just ok. I got in touch with them, shipped it back, and they re-barreled it. The new barrel shot just like you would expect them to, and pretty much like the others have posted here. So, great customer service for me. I thought the rifle was a bit heavy but I carried it around for two seasons chasing elk here in MT. I shot a couple of cows with it and it did just fine, but then again, the distances weren't too difficult. My biggest complaint was the safety. It was pretty easy to move it to the fire position. In fact, I twice found that the safety had moved off safe while hiking around the mountains. In 30+ years of hunting, I have never had a safety do that on any of my rifles. I was more than happy to sell the rifle shortly after that. I'm not disparaging the folks that are happy with them; I just wanted to you to let you know about the one issue that I found. It was a deal-breaker for me.


You are not the lone ranger in this regard...

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I had a 54 wood stocked and sold it. I did not like the safety or the hard bolt lift. Felt recoil was far to hard for a 280 remington.Very pretty rifle just not my thing. It did not shoot very well either.ED

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Sample of one, a Jackson game in .260. 3 different loads have easily met the .5 inch 3 shot group at 100 yard guarantee. Two of the loads have consistently done .5 MOA at 300 yards and when I am on my A game at 400 yards. I have had no issues cycling the bolt from the shoulder, weight in the action you are looking at is fine weight for walking rifle (i'm 5'10" 180 pounds).

I would like to buy a Jackson Hunter rifle in .260 os I have a wet weather cooper rifle.

Best of luck. GRF

Geedubya is a man with extensive experience buying and selling Cooper rifles, hopefully he will chime in.

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If my Classic Custom 7mm-08 is everything I hoped it would be I intend on ordering a synthetic stocked Excalibur with stainless barrel and action in 300 H&H caliber. I like 300 caliber and up in Classic chamberings. Current elk guns are Ruger 1S 300 H&H, Ruger K1A 35 Whelen, and Winchester 71 in .348 Win. I also occasionally hunt elk with a Ruger 1S 7mm Rem Mag.

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I would never even consider owning a Cooper simply because of Dan Cooper and his monetary support of Obama's presidential campaign.

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He no longer owns the company

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Originally Posted by whitebread
I would never even consider owning a Cooper simply because of Dan Cooper and his monetary support of Obama's presidential campaign.


You do know that Dan Cooper is no longer a part of Cooper rifles and hasn't been for many years, right? The company is owned by Wilson.

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I would never even consider owning a Cooper simply because of Dan Cooper and his monetary support of Obama's presidential campaign.


You do know that Dan Cooper is no longer a part of Cooper rifles and hasn't been for many years, right? The company is owned by Wilson.


Correct. He still created the company and it still bears his name.

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