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It seems the cops were way too nice.

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Waco mayhem exposes double standard on violence

What Waco shows us about race and crime


We've seen it so often that it has become laughable, pitiable and disgraceful. But more than anything, it strikes to the heart of a grotesque truth about American hypocrisy. The "it" this time is the almost matter of fact, infuriating double standard by law enforcement, the press and public officials when it comes to young black males committing mayhem versus young or not-so-young white males committing mayhem.

It reared its ugly head again in the way that law enforcement handled and much of the media reported on the recent deadly shootout between rival Texas biker gangs. The carnage in Waco left nine dead, scores wounded and nearly 200 arrested, most of them white bikers. It was labeled a "feud," a "melee," "a turf battle," accompanied by a deluge of media interviews from self-identified biker gang members painting themselves as belonging to a harmless social club.


Then we saw the now-infamous scene of scores of detained bikers allegedly connected with the mayhem leisurely corralled near the murder scene on their cellphones and yukking it up with each other. And who did we see overseeing them? We saw police officers seemingly just as casual; nonchalant as if it was just another day at the office. Or, as if they had just detained these bikers for nothing more than a speeding violation.

Suffice it to say, there have been few hysterical screeches branding them as thugs, gangsters, animals and vermin. There have been few indignant calls by the press, citizenry and elected officials for a swift, harsh, toss-the-book-at-them resolution — the kind of demands we hear when it's young black males on the hot seat.

Young whites tear up streets, overturn cars and battle police after a championship hockey or basketball victory or loss and it's simply tagged as boys will be boys. Or, when a young white male shoots up a school or theater there are pronouncements about his troubled childhood, drug addiction or psychological traumas. Or, how about, when young whites are popped for drug use? The pipeline for them is not to courts and jails, but to counseling and treatment and therapy.

This dual racial standard rests squarely on the pantheon of stereotypes and negative typecasting of young black males, which too often has deadly consequences.


The hope was that Barack Obama's 2008 election to the White House would bury once and for all negative racial typecasting and the perennial threat it poses to the safety and well-being of black males. It did no such thing. Immediately after his election, teams of researchers from several major universities found that many of the old stereotypes about poverty and crime and blacks remained frozen in time. The study found that much of the public still perceived those most likely to commit crimes as poor, jobless and black. The study did more than affirm that race and poverty and crime were firmly rammed together in the public mind. It showed that once the stereotype is planted, it's virtually impossible to root it out. That's hardly new.


In 2003, Penn State University researchers conducted a landmark study on the tie between crime and public perceptions of who is most likely to commit a crime. The study found that many whites are likely to associate pictures of blacks with violent crimes. This was no surprise given the relentless media depictions of young black males as dysfunctional, dope-peddling, gang bangers and drive-by shooters. The study found that even when blacks didn't commit a specific crime, whites still identified the perpetrator as African-American.


Five years later, university researchers wanted to see if that stereotype still held sway. Researchers found that the attitudes on crime and race remained unchanged.

The bulging numbers of blacks in America's jails and prisons seem to reinforce the wrong-headed perception that crime and violence invariably comes with a young, black, male face. The brutal reality is that Waco won't change that.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...rcement-perspec-0504-20150520-story.html

I wouldn't even know where to start.

It's like stepping into a covey.

Too nice?? Hell, the cops shot some of the bikers and immediately rounded up almost 200 of them simply for the fact that they were wearing biker jackets. How would the Libs feel if the cops in Baltimore had immediately arrested everyone on the street that "looked" like a rioter or looter??

The only double standard is that, in Texas, the cops did their job when faced with a large group of white potential suspects. Meanwhile, in Baltimore, the cops were forced to stand there while a bunch of black folks trashed the city, because it would have been "racist" to arrest the rioters simply because they looked/acted like/associated with other rioters.

Cops were too nice???

They shot a GRANDMOTHER.

They shot a retired COP.

A whole bunch of bikers from VARIOUS clubs (maybe TEN different clubs) were mixed together.

Some shooting started.

Some folks were undoubtedly shooting in legitimate self-defense (as any of us would do).....

Then the SWAT snipers mowed them all down with little to NO IDEA if some were just trying to defend themselves.

It was a police atrocity.

That's why we should be angry.

It has nothing to do with liberal or conservative.

you were there?

Can someone tell me why there's been no news coverage of white crowds looting and burning Waco?

Oh, wait...

Benjamin Crump is MIA.

His friend the Rev. Al must be on vacation.

That's my take too, but apparently liberals don't approve.
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Waco shootout, Baltimore protests raise questions
Associated Press

Washington — The prevailing images of protests in Baltimore and Ferguson, Missouri, over police killings of black men were of police in riot gear, handcuffed protesters, tear gas and mass arrests. The main images of a fatal gun battle between armed bikers and police in Waco, Texas, also showed mass arrests — carried out by nonchalant-looking officers sitting around calm bikers on cellphones.

The firefight in Waco is raising questions about perceptions and portrayals of crime in America, considering the vehement reaction that the earlier protests got from police, politicians and some members of the public.

Unlike in Ferguson and Baltimore, where protests went on for days, there was no live news coverage of the Waco shootout. And yet the incident at a Texas restaurant hasn’t been used as a bridge to discuss other issues about families, poverty and crime, media critics, columnists and civil rights activists say.

They complain that there appears to be little societal concern about the gunplay at a restaurant in Texas, whereas politicians — including President Barack Obama — described violent looters in Baltimore as “thugs,” and the media devoted hours of television and radio airtime to dissecting social ills that affect the black community.

On Twitter, #wacothugs and #whiteonwhitecrime were trending, with columnists around the nation debating the differences. “So the mainstream media refuses to talk (hashtag)WacoThugs, huh? No panel discussion on their childhood? Fatherless homes?” radio and TV commentator Roland Martin said on Facebook. The Atlantic’s Ta-Nehisi Coates tweeted sarcastically, “Why won’t America’s biker gangs be more like Dr. Martin Luther King?”

The shootout at a Twin Peaks restaurant in Waco left nine people dead and 18 injured. About 170 bikers have been charged with engaging in organized crime, with bond at $1 million for each suspect. Mug shots show an array of suspects: white, Hispanic, a white woman and a man who looked black.

Police said the fight started because a vehicle rolled over a man’s foot. That caused a dispute that continued inside the restaurant, where fighting and then shooting began, before the violence spilled back outside, they said. Police said Wednesday about 1,000 weapons were recovered from the scene, but later revised that to 318 “and still counting,” including an AK-47 assault rifle, handguns, knives, brass knuckles, clubs and chains.

Officials said the nine dead were Bandidos and Cossacks members, ranging in age from 27 to 65. Preliminary autopsy results showed all nine were killed by gunshots.

Police have acknowledged firing on armed bikers, but it was unclear how many of the dead were shot by gang members and how many were shot by officers.

There were no deaths during the Baltimore and Ferguson protests, yet people immediately stereotyped all of the protesters as criminals, said Nicole Lee, a human rights lawyer who worked with protesters in both cities.

“Nine people were killed in Waco, and yet you have not heard the level of disgust and dismay as you did over fires burning in Ferguson and in Baltimore,” Lee said.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2015/05/20/waco-shooting-perceptions/27634905/

they are never short of righteous indignation , its what makes them better than us.? them being pissed is a static condition.

The election of Obamcrap has lead to the most racial biased America in my lifetime. He and his henchmen in the justice department are the root cause.

I think the only racial desparity is that a bunch of white gang members will get the justice they deserve, while a bunch of black gangsters were allowed to loot and year schidt up....

We have a state trooper in the family. Every year he gets sent to two big public sin fests to keep the peace.

One is a biker rally,his instructions are to strictly enforce the law and arrest as many people as necessary to do just that. Basically show no mercy,cut no slack.

The other is a big party for black youth,it's called "The Foot Washin". He is told to make arrests only if things get violent. Look the other way with drugs,prostitution,and any other vice or petty crime.

It's clearly a double standard,the groups should get the same treatment.

The big differences?
The bikers forgot, molotov cocktails, hoodies, to fight the cops, to run next door and rob all the stores and run like the wind.

can't take your insanity any longer. Off to ignore with the other trolls. Adios.

Gosh, you have a low tolerance for insanity.

And stupidity. You exemplify both.

Exactly.

And not only this, but there was even a warning published by law enforcement saying that other biker gang members better stay away from the area or risk similar retribution To what occurred earlier in the week.

Imagine if other looters had been similarly warned in Baltimore!

Bicycles vs Harleys... There is a difference

Don't know where you got yer rendition of the facts from, andI haven't paid close enough attention to this to know much, but I can tell you that Man Licker has an awful lot of people on ignore.