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Glad theyre dropping it, about time.
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Heads might roll at M D C but they would have to get them out of their arsses first. What a joke for management personal!!! Disgruntled ex-employee?
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Nope retired! And know more $hit on the money grubbing. tax wasting agency than anyone should. But they have a way of keeping you from letting it out if you want your retirement , insurance etc etc. Know one thing for sure it is time fore their sales tax windfall to go away. Getting to where they can't even waste it all every year.
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I like the 4 pt restriction. I have seen a significant improvement in the number of mature 8 pt and better bucks in my area since the restriction went into effect a few years ago. There's no shortage of does in my area. I always thought one should shoot a doe if they want meat. Pass on the smaller bucks and let them get older. +1
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The dropping of the 4 point law has nothing to do with buck management
To shoot more does at this time is just stupid as heard numbers are way down
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Missouri has had unlimited doe tags in many counties for nearly a decade...... $7 each.....as many as you wanted to buy and fill......resident or non resident for many years
Not to mention 29 days you can kill a $7 doe
This was eliminated last year thank god
I would like to see the doe season go away completely Stupid application of stupid laws does stupid things. Like us, no doe seaosn but kill however many bucks of whatever from button buck on up. No deer left to shoot as they shot all the bucks and the does never got bred... It works both ways, either you or the game department has to apply some sense
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The dropping of the 4 point law has nothing to do with buck management
To shoot more does at this time is just stupid as heard numbers are way down Depends where in the state you're hunting. I am in the woods a lot and I've seen no shortage of deer in my area for the past several years. In fact, there's too many does. I just love how one hunter can form an opinion of their particular area and then apply the same opinion to the entire state.
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I live in the Mark Twain National Forest
No deer issues in this area
However I lease a farm in Schuyler county only 16 miles from Iowa
Deer numbers are way down in that area
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We have gradually seen bigger bucks since they put in the 4-point rule.
Speaking of shooting does, isn't a 1-to-1 buck to doe ratio good for the herd?
I wish there was a solution for the poacher, road hunter, spot lighter problem.
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love the 4 point rule. and hate the doe season.
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Is there a link to this? Or are we just speculating?
Steve.
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go to missouri dept of conservation web page. its there
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go to missouri dept of conservation web page. its there That's kinda why I asked. I can't find it there. In fact, I find almost no updates for 2015 -- almost everything is about 2014, so it looks like the MDoC website hasn't yet been updated for the 2015 seasons. If you can, please post a link. Thanks. Steve.
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Missouri is also going to start a point system and lottery draw for non-residents in 2016
Starting in the spring 2016 non-residents will have to draw a rifle buck tag and buy a non-resident hunting and fishing permit
It will also be noted that to draw a buck tag it will require 3 points
Each year of not being drawn you will receive a point after 3 points you will draw on the 4th try
Points will be purged to zero every 3 years
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Do they have to buy the hunting and fishing license to get their point?
So a any deer tag will now cost $347. It's still cheaper than most places.
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The hunting and fishing license will need to be purchased at the same time the any deer tag is applied for.....the deer license will also be paid for in advance with a 95% refund on the deer license if you are not drawn
The non resident hunting and fishing license is non refundable
You must also be an active NRA member and a natural born free US citizen
But note.....it will take 3 points to draw on the 4th year of applying
With a 3 year point purge to back to zero
Every three years you start over with no points
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I see I am just little slow this morning. It's what happens when I work midnights.
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That's all good news to my ears. Hope that applies to special managed hunts and spring turkey season too.
Edit: I am surprised at the requirement to be an NRA member.
Last edited by MOGC; 06/14/15.
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Missouri is also going to start a point system and lottery draw for non-residents in 2016
Starting in the spring 2016 non-residents will have to draw a rifle buck tag and buy a non-resident hunting and fishing permit
It will also be noted that to draw a buck tag it will require 3 points
Each year of not being drawn you will receive a point after 3 points you will draw on the 4th try
Points will be purged to zero every 3 years About the only thing I've been able to find on the site is for managed hunts - which references all the info you've stated above. http://mdc.mo.gov/hunting-trapping/deer/managed-hunts-selection-process
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