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I feel my winchester feeds the best of any rifle I've owned.

Is the normal or do others feed better.

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Spotshooter, this will be a highly controversial subject. And by the looks of your registration date, you've been around long enough to know better! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I like my Remingtons, but the Winchester's I have feed nice too, so I am on the fence. Think I'll just sit back and watch the rest of this play out.

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I couldn't remember the subject of feeding, but do remember some action quality posts.

I'm not really making a fair assesment here, I'm comparing a winchester custom shop super grade to all others I've owned. Remy, Ruger, Browning, Tikka, I've never owned a Sako, blazer, or sauer.

It is a "well" vs. a box magazine (which I tend to like) also.

I was just extremely impressed that I could drop a round in on top of the follower and feed it no matter what angle the action was at (save upside down).

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Of all the rifles I've owned, the best feeders have been sako model 75's with their detachable mag, long, short, fat or ugly; they've feed them all without issue.

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Of all the rifles I've owned, the best feeders have been sako model 75's with their detachable mag, long, short, fat or ugly; they've feed them all without issue.
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Never thought about it - I usually feed ammo at a high rate of speed - thus ramming the bolt back and forth as fast as possible, much like I would in the field on a follow up shot. That tends to negate any "roughness" or anything. That being said I never had a feeding problem with my Rugers. The all extracted and fed the round without a hiccup.


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Of all the rifles I've owned, the best feeders have been sako model 75's with their detachable mag, long, short, fat or ugly; they've feed them all without issue.


+2 and second best are the two Sako's I own from the previous series, an A1 in 23 and an AV in 300 WIn mag


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+3 for the Sako 75

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Properly reworked, tuned, and adjusted, a CRF Model 70 action feeds better than anything else, with a fine-tuned Mauser 98-pattern action being a very close second.

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I think a rack grade M1,would give lotsa things a run for their money,weighing feed/function,extrapolated by round count.

Always cracked me up how "Africa Guys" sang feed/function virtues of a given platform,after shooting 9 shots outta the back of a Jeep,over 2wks.

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There's a qualified opinion for you.............. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

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How many steps to get a Mod 70 RIGHT? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Still like the mausers though followed by a SAKO

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Mannlicher Scheonauer by far! Light years in fact. No longer made but the cloesest thing to a Porsche manual shifter you will ever try in a rifle.

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I'll tell ya what, after having the custom job slide rounds like silk it kind of ruins you on the abolt feed.

now, now don't start, I'll still take the abolt tang safety over all of them. Albeit I may need to put some axle grease on that bolt stop pin, or just remove it completely.

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Spot, I had this very conversation with Hondo while he was here last weekend. I have got a Niseka in 6.5-06 that feeds fair. Not bad, but if you put four in the magazine you are asking for trouble. Works most of the time, but not all. I also have a 30-338 that is built on a Rem. 700 ADL style with a Brown Precision stock. Was built in the early '80's and is now having the 5th gunsmith work on it. It has never fed well. Two rounds in the magazine and then single in the third round to the chamber and everything will work. Put that third round in the magazine and it screws up regularly especially if you cycle the bolt slowly.

On the other hand I have been shooting a 1949 Win. 70 in 30-06 lately. I have never experienced a better feeding bolt gun. Slick and positive under all conditions. It has been a nice change of pace.

I guess I still prefer single shots, but the Pre. 64 70 if pretty good.

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The best I've owned was a pre-64, '06 and a couple of FN 98's chambered in 30-06.

Still have the FN 98. My Model 70 SS Classic in 338 isn't bad either. Slides em slow or fast.

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My experience has been that my Mannlicher-Schoenauer, then my Oberndorf Mauser Type 40 and my Brno 21H rifles are the best feeding ones I have tried, over-all, WHEN left in the factory chambering. I also have found P-64 Mod. 70s, especially the H&H ones to be outstanding, after owning and using eight of these rifles so chambered over the years.

My Dakota 76 is now excellent, but, required some tweaking, a REAL PITA in a rifle of this cost, I have also found FN-LE sporters to perform very well, but, the P-64 feels slightly smoother to me.

I am getting REAL interested in a Hein "Trophy Palouse" in .338 Win. and would expect stellar performance from it.

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The hands-down best feeder I've ever shot or owned is my stock Ruger 10/22. It's had about a gazillion rounds through it, rarely gets cleaned, and never fails.


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Of the crf's that I have I rate the 99 Savage the best by far. First of all because its faster to operate than any bolt and second because it feeds just right. The 99's do have a very small extractor however but the ones I have have always worked fine.

I remember the Mannlicher Schoenauer as feeding very well but the action is an abomination otherwise as it's bolt is way too far forward for easy operation and it's pistol grip is no where near the front, firing, trigger. I was talking guns long ago with the late Elihu Lyman sr. on how much I liked the 99 for hunting and how I thought it would have made a better military rifle than the Springfield and he said that the rotary magazines on them froze up in the testing.

As to HH cartridge feeding better than rimless I have not noticed a difference. If a rifle feeds perfectly, such as my pre 64 M70's in 243, 308, 30-06, 300HH, 358 and 375 HH then how can I say one is much better?

The Brno 21H and 22F that I have do not feed all that well crf as they were chamberd by Brno in the wrong rounds for the long action. That line is rife with design mistakes. The feeding problem with the ones I have is that the short 7X57 and 8X57's will move forward in the magazine from recoil. This leaves the base of the round forward in the magazine.

If the shooter fails to draw the bolt all the way back to the ejector then the cartridge will not be ejected. Now if the bolt is pushed forward at this point a round from the magazine will be loaded into the chamber parallel to the round still above it and a double feed jam will happen.

The Brnos that I have are by far the worst as the ejectors are also too short.

Some of the Rugers feed quite well but I get some bobbles now and then from my Kimbers but no jams so far.

The reference to the autoloader must be qualified as it's the manual operated gun that might jam do to erratic out of sequence movement of the bolt by the operator.


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