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Im looking heavily at either a megatarp or paratipi for some back country hunting i an going to do. But i haven't seen much info on competitors to kifaru.

I have seen some of tigoats stuff but am curious if there is anyone else offering stuff in this same category.

Anyone know of anywhere else to see similar tents/tipi/tarps?


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Seek Outside makes great tipis, and the owner Kevin T is on this forum.

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Seek Outside. I could tell you why they are better option than Kifaru on features, construction and price but I don't want to hurt anybodys feelings. For what your looking for the LBO and its different parts/setups would work well for you.

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I jumped on really fast to their site and found the lil bug out. There will only be two of us most of the time. Would the Bug out with the vestibule be enough or would it be cramming it a bit?

I also seen that their smallest stove is a medium.?. Would this be to much for that small of a set up?


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A Seekoutside LBO, either two bases or a base and a vestibule would work well as would a Backcountry Shelter. The BCS is my favorite.

As far as stoves, one of my roll-up titanium stoves, either a 12" or 16' would work well.


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This is worth a read although its now outdated:

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/5537405

This also if your interested in the BCS:

http://hillpeoplegear.com/Forum/tabid/679/forumid/23/threadid/1176/scope/posts/Default.aspx

Oh, and this great write up on the LBO:

http://sreekers81.blogspot.com/2012/11/more-than-teaser-lil-bug-out.html

I am not sure on the SO medium as I have never seen or used one in person. I could recommend an Ed T stove though, a 12" I think would work well in a LBO or BCS.

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I can only speak to the Seek Outside LBO and their first generation 6.

For two, the double base set up would work. If you ran one of their medium stoves in it, space would be tight with gear, but doable. The link on the LBO page is a write up that I did on the LBO. I haven't used one of Ed T's, although I would like to in the future.

The BCS has a bit more space, but I haven't used one, yet. I have plans to do a write up comparing the LBO, BCS, and the 4 man in April.

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This has been coming up as an alternative to the Megatarp on Various forums.

http://mountainsmith.com/index.php/tents-sleeping-bags/tents/mountain-shelter-lt.html

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The LBO and Vest can work for two depending on sleeping arrangement. It is 56 sq feet , so it isn't really small. You can also leave one side not attached and get a larger footprint with 7/8 coverage in fairer weather. The medium stove will work in it as its only 10 inches long and 12 high, although for running a stove and lots of gear I would choose 2 bases if that was primary usage. It depends on if the stove is to be used all the time as a primary function or just on occasion. The really nice thing, is the LBO can adapt to the situation at hand really easily, I primarily use it as base and vest for one or two and then add a tarp connector for stove use and bigger camps. You can also run it vest, tarp, vest as well, and have a stove in the middle and separate exits as well. It's not bad that way, just not compatible with a nest, but it's comfy for two and gear in a floorless set up.


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How appropriate a customer sent us a stove video they made. They did a lot better job than we have at videos. It's a medium stove in the video


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If, you are going to spend any extended periods in ANY backpackable shelter, try to buy one a bit bigger than your absolute minimum. This, in multi-day/night stints in really vile weather, as much of the year in BC, makes a HUGE difference.

I would take EdT's advice and I would buy the BCS, one of his stoves and the extra panel.....very choice little rig, IMHO.

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Funny story, our wood this year was so dry during deer season that we may have had some flames coming out of the 8 foot pipe on accident. I tried to get pictures but it didn't work. We stayed warm though....

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I talked to another member on here today that lives in the same town as me. I asked him what he thought and he just happens to have the bcs. So i hope to be able to set it up and see for my self. He also has to of Eds stoves. Should be the ticket from what i hear.

It would be a primary use for two people but could three fit if needed.....even if it was close?


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See if he will let you take it for a test drive, likely help your decision making process.

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I talked to another member on here today that lives in the same town as me. I asked him what he thought and he just happens to have the bcs. So i hope to be able to set it up and see for my self. He also has to of Eds stoves. Should be the ticket from what i hear.

It would be a primary use for two people but could three fit if needed.....even if it was close?


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Yep...I'd opt for the BCS from Seek Outside for a stand alone extended trip shelter out of the ones mentioned here...great shelter indeed.


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Al, you had a chance to play with the LBO yet?

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I tried to attach an excel file (that I zipped so it would let me attach it) that I made when trying to buy a tarp/tipi shelter. It tops out at about 25 different models, and I have columns for weight, size, material, an online link to website, price, etc. The price might be a bit off cause I get some pro deals, but feel free to take a look. It helped me a lot to narrow things down.

On ones without a stove jack I was going to buy one from TiGoat and install.

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I LOVE Kifaru products!!!! Greatest packs on the planet. Probably some of the very best tents/tarps. I would love the new Mega Tarp. I had a Paratipi, did not like it. The thing is rather large inside for square footage. Useable square footage for sleeping and sitting is horrible though. I feel the design of this one is not good if you are at all tall. I just could not stay off the tarp fabric, sitting or sleeping. Put a stove in it, and it is really bad. Just my opinion of the Paratipi........

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Is the door panel worth the extra money for the space on the bcs?


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