Sure is alot of talk about Leupold lately .Some lovers of, some haters of, seems like Leupold has been getting a bad rap. My question is this: Who here has actually missed a shot or couldn't get a good early morning/late evening sight picture on a game animal because they were using a Leupold scope? Sometimes I wonder if we get on the hatin' bandwagon and really have no reason to. If there are any, let's here your Leupold disaster stories.

How about driving to an out of state hunt and when you get there you go to check zero and find out your rifle now shoots 18" groups. Because I was a dumbass and didn't have a backup rifle with me it cost me a day of hunting.

If I hadn't gone to check zero ( or the scope held together for 3 more shots), it would have likely cost me animal or at the very least caused me to put a very bad shot on one.

The scope was a 2.5-8 with just some load development on it and a little practice.. say 100 shots of 308 win. Had been flawless until it crapped out.

Leupold fixed it up quick and free, Erector assembly they said. I never felt that comfortable with it and it went in a trade. I did buy a new 2.5-8 tho.

Frankly because I shoot 100x more at the range than I do at animals the odds of a scope loosing an animal are low

I think this forum is already filled with enough venom that a post like this is not necessary or will not accomplish anything except encourage more childlike behavior.

Yeah, this was a fairly civil forum for a while, no more. I may finally start using the ignore feature. Or I may just quit reading this one.

It's amazing how people can agree to disagree on, say, the Handguns forum and not resort to jr. high name calling.

The intent is not to "stir the pot" in anyway, just curious if there is any "real world fact" to back up the "venom" that is already out there. If there aren't scores of examples on Leupold failures, then it kind of acts as an "anti-venom"

...Just for the record, I consider myself a Leupold and Zeiss Conquest kinda guy, love them equally.

In my earlier days of hunting whitetails I was using an old Leupold 4x28 with a standard duplex reticle. On early morning shots on overcast days, I could not see the reticle well enough to take a shot with confidence. I don't know if that qualifies as a blown opportunity or not, but I can tell you that I could see plenty well through the Steiner 7x50 Whitetail's I was using at the time.

Nope, not once have I blown a shot due to a Leupold scope. Being a varmint hunter, and using some higher powered cartridges such as the .257 Ackley, 6mm Remington, etc., my scopes have been subject to hundreds of shots per day and a thousand or so over a season per rifle. These same scopes have been switched back and forth on .30-06, 7mm Mauser, and 7mm Remington Magnum rifles, up to .375 Magnum and .45-70 bolt rifles with no failures. I only had to send one Leupold back for repairs, and that one was 30 years old, and it became suspect during load development at the range.

Many scope failures are due to yahoo's that don't know how to mount a scope, over tighten rings, don't check alignment of rings, and drop or otherwise damage their scopes. Indeed I haven't had any failures from Bushnell's Elite series scopes, Nikon Monarchs, Weavers, or most Burris scopes. One Burris pistol scope that disassembled was on a .480 Ruger, that's the only failure I've had in decades. Burris repaired it and it has never reoccurred.

The U.S. military is killing bad guys everyday with Leupold's on their rifles. IMO, 'nuff said.

A better question would be: How many people have killed animals with a Leopold scope? We could crash this forum by hanging all those pics....

Perhaps someone will post a picture of a doe they killed with a 2k scope to give us all a good laugh.

No, I never missed a shot that I could blame on any scope or rifle. I guess that leaves yours truly as the reason.

We were hunting black bear on Vancouver Island and I had a Leupold 3.5X10 really let me down. I was really disappointed in the performance of the scope. We were side skirting on a large shale slide and I slipped. When I tried to catch my balance I dropped my rifle. The rifle fell down over a small cliff and landed about 35 or 40 feet below me. And the darn scope lost its zero, and fogged up. Can you believe that. Two problems with the same scope, and it only hit one measly little rock. That scope should have held up to that fall!! And then what did the idiots at Leupold do?? They fixed it, but it took them almost two weeks from the day I shipped it back to them(at no charge). Can you believe the nerve of Leupold!! They should have at least over nighted it back to me!! Tom.

I feel your pain. Prayers sent.

Tom did you get a Canuck black bear for all your trouble and pain.

Best Alan.

Unforgivable. They should be able to survive at least a 100' fall and cushion the fall of the rifle and hunter. Leupold should have bought you a new hunt.

My partner and I lost enough points during a Sniper Match to put out us out of the top 3 overall standings because of tracking issues, but during the same match the Marine Corps teams competing had problems with their S&B scopes also. Stuff happens.

I have, numerous times. However, on all occasions it was well after normal hunting time.

I hunt feral hogs at night (legal in Texas), and I've found that a S&B Zenith with the flash dot is the best rifle scope aside from going all out with Gen 3 night vision.

Within normal hunting time (30 minutes before/after sunrise/sunset) Leupold has work just fine for me (with either the HD or P&D reticle).

A better question might me how many hours of hunting time have you lost because of inferior chi-com loopie glass and coatings.


dave

ahhh springtime on the optics forum! Soap lets let this go for a while, they all work within reason, some better than others some worse.

Dave can we really know where B&S sorry S&B get all there glass made I read some where China may be the only place left with lax enough environmental laws to make some of this glass but reading stuff on the web dose not make it so.

Best Alan

Well I missed a shot because the extras 100 bucks I spent on the Leupold kept me from filling my tank with gas so I ran out on the way to my hunting spot. Shoulda went with the Tasco bubblepack Deluxe.

Just kiddin.

I love the looks of a nice shiny Leupold on top of a rifle as much as the next guy.

Seriously folks, take a step out of the ring and take a look at the big picture. The hunting and shooting hobby costs money. Period. Whatever amount more or less you spend or save on a scope isn't more than a dinner out with the family or a tank of gas these days. The argument is quite silly actually. Buy what you like and like what you buy.

Can I blame my butt-shot deer on the Leup on the rifle?

Bastards, they should have at least offered to pay for your hunt as well.

I have blown a shot on a deer because of a Leupold Scope.

I've posted the story before but in a nutshell, Drizzly night, couldn't see a twig in front of the deer and bullet went in sideways. Deer ran 80 or so yards away and stood there. I could see it standing there with my naked eyes. I could see it in my Swaro binoculars quite well. I couldn't find it in my Leupold Vari-X III 4.5-14x50 scope. I adjusted the power up and down, I adjusted the AO but could not find the deer in the riflescope. If I'd of had irons and QR rings I could have made a finishing shot. If I'd had a scope of equal optical quality to my Swaro Bino's I could have made a finishing shot. Instead a deer needlessly suffered for 30 minutes or so.

I got the meat and horns but was upset with the optical quality of the Leupold and sold the scope. I've shot other deer with leupy's and usually they are more than good enough for the job, they just weren't this time. I still have several other Leuplds but I don't use them on my primary hunting rifles.

And before "E" starts spouting off about me being a Leupold "hater" remember that I still have more than twice as many Leupolds as Eremicus does........................DJ

I still want to try a 4X I think they are solid.

I'm sure some idiot will chime in before this thread is over and say a Zeiss would have survived that fall with no problem...just wait and watch. I'll be suprised if it doesn't happen.

Not one problem or blown shot in 37 years of hunting. Can't beat that.

tx270 have faith we've turned the page. (I hope )

Night all Alan

A zeiss would have survived the fall.

I had a couple of Zeiss scopes at the time. Now I wish I had mounted the Zeiss instead of the Leupold. Certainly the Zeiss would have survived the fall. And certainly if the Zeiss had failed they would have reimbursed me for the hunt.

Do you guys think it is too late to try and get Leupold to pay for the hunt???? By golly I think I will take them to court----!!!! You guys are right, Leupold should PAYYYYYYYYYYY. Tom.

Once is enough for me.

dave

Frankly anyone who drops a rifle 30+ feet on a rock face and then doesn't check it to see if it's off.

Well rifles and scopes are tools that have an alignment. If you exceed the ability of those things to hold that alignment and you don't get them re-aligned it's your fault not the rifles.

Nothing in the world is perfect - ok maybe the expectation of a person that everything should be perfect is the real question at hand.

Ya know my 18 year old complains that the world isn't perfect either. He says "we just don't get it" - I have faith that all but the most bull headed of us have the oppertunity to learn, but in the end life's trying to teach you a lesson. If your getting pissed off, it's because your not paying attention - I'm pretty sure it's not "life's" fault.



Spot

No, DJ, I won't call you a Leupold Hater. But I will point out that there is something mighty funny about your post. You had a big variable that wouldn't show you a small twig at 80 yds. ? That really funny. Mine regularly show me .25 caliber bullet holes at 100 yds. "Mine" being the lowly 6X42. But your's, even with as much as 14X on tap, couldn't show you a twig ?
You keep insisting that all one does with the ocular is focus, or make the scope's reticle sharp. Simply not so. First you sharpen the reticle, then you focus the image. E

I had a Vari-X II 2-7x33 on a Win 88 .308, and my friend, who is a VERY good shot, missed 9 straight shots at a WT doe easily within his effective range. I took the rifle home and it shot 12" patterns. I installed a spare Simmons PH I had laying around, and the rifle went back to shooting sub-MOA. A Vortex Diamondback now sits on that 88, and the Leup now sits on my Grandfather's old Savage .22 pump-gun.

Every model of scope will fail from time to time, and every model of scope has cost SOMEBODY a lost shot at game.

Must be that ominous depth of field thingy with those damn A/O scopes.

How many have blown a shot because of Leupold.....

Never!

Lefty C

Never had a luppie cause me to miss or not be able to shoot because of low light.

I did however have a kahles fail on me, and it ended up costing me the bigest blacktail buck I have ever seen while hunting. It lost its zero somewhere between the last time I shot it 4days before. I resighted it in and killed a buck with it later that day. Then after hunting season while at the range I found out it would hold zero for a few shots then jump way off and hold that for a while then jump again. It went back to Kahles for repair and I don't remember the cause but they fixed it. 3 of the 4 kahles scopes that I have used have failed. but they do have nice glass and to be fair I have never heard of anyone else having any problems with them, so I will chalk it up to being very unlucky.

never leupolds fault - I've missed a couple of times though.

I think I missed more with other scopes than leupolds if that helps.

A Conquest would have survived that fall. They are amazing.

They will also grind pepper, work as a microscope if you flip them around, make a good cheerleader's baton, will pleasure your wife or girlfriend, or, even YOU if you are funny that way, make a great candle holder or blowgun, can be used as a prybar or chisel, and -my favorite- will project pornos onto the wall of your tent.

Great scopes. Show me a Leupold that will do all that!

I missed a nice black bear a few years ago because of a Leupold M8 4x scope failure. This is an old Leupold that Ive had for umpteen years that I bought 2nd hand.

I had checked zero a few weeks before hand - everything was good. About a 50 yard shot - clean miss. I sent it in to Leupold got it back a couple of weeks later no charge except for shipping. Something to do with the erector assembly?

This is not a knock on Leupold, I mean from my perspective the darn thing didn't owe me anything at that stage. I'm glad they fixed the old queen for free.

My wife missed an eating-sized mule deer a couple of years ago at about 200 yards because of a fairly new, Leupold VX-III 3.5-10x40 that went nuts. A friend had a 3-9x Compact go bad on him when we were hunting mule deer in Colorado, but that scope had been on the same rifle for at least a decade. Those are the only two "defective Leupold" miss I've seen, but have personally had at least 3 expensive Euro-scopes go nuts in the field on me, causing either misses or wounds. Have also seen higher-quality Asian scopes of several makes go sproing.

As somebody already noted, any scope can (and sometimes will) break down.

I have never been unable to aim at an animal (either big game or varmint) with a Leupold, whether because of their incredibly fuzzy lenses or their dim view. Then again, on the occasions I've hunted at night I've either used a spotlight or a night-vision scope. In fact the only occasion when I can recall any difficulty aiming at a game animal was many years ago, with an El Paso K3 Weaver. It was before sunrise and several whitetails were a couple hundred yards away. Two were bucks, but in the scope I couldn't see antlers on anything. Some quick back-and-forth between binoculars (B&L's) and the scope finally resulted in a 1-shot kill on the bigger buck, but after that I quit using old Weavers, except maybe for rodent shooting.

I like Leupold scopes and have or currently run several, but I have to admit that I have had to send back more than 1 in the last 3 years for tracking issues. What really bothers me is that the guy at Leupold always knows exactly what I am about to tell em, before I tell him, Erector issues. Why is this? And then they come out with the new VX-3's that claim to have a dual erector system that will eliminate the erector issues so many have dealt with. IMO the newer Leupies (pre VX-3) are not as well made as the older ones, most of the troubled scopes I have had have been less than 5 years old production, kind of makes me wonder whats happened in the last 5 years. Never missed an animal cuz of one, but very well could have had I not spent adequate time at the range prior to the hunt.

Heck, I've never had any scope fail me, mechanically or in low light, in 35 years of hunting and target shooting. I have owned Tasco's, Bushnell's, Simmons, and Nikon's, and have had good success with them all. I will admit that I have over twenty rifles wearing glass, calibers from .243 thru 300WinMag, as well as a 20 and two 12 gauge shotguns that are scoped, and so none of them ever get a ton of rounds thru them. I also have hunted out of state or long distance from my home only a few times so have not had to deal with agressive baggage handlers. One of these days I'll spring for a really good scope and see what I've been missing.

I've never had any scope fail yet, from Tasco to Leupie, whether due to poor optical quality or mechanics.

To those unhappy with those POS Leupolds, send them to me with a check for $25 and I will make sure they are properly disposed of so they can never fail on you again Russ

Dead horse "E". You are wrong, have been proven wrong numerous times about this very subject by several different optical engineers. You are just too Bull headed to realize that you are wrong................................DJ

Hey - wait a minute - I already took that approach on the Haters thread - GET IN LINE --but dont hurry ..I have not had any boxes sent to me yet -go figure !! LOLL

Prolly the best thing stated here in some time!

I have read this from you and often wondered about it.


My eyes with glasses are 20/20 and I have a hard time seeing 25 cal. holes at 100 yrds using 6x. That is why I use a spotting scope.


Everyone's eyes are different.

Not a knock on Leupold because stuff happens. I was on a guided hunt for turkey in Texas & as an after thought decided to hunt a Blackbuck. Several times I asked the guide to go to the range & let me check zero. Scope was on a 257 Weatherby & had seen lots of severe duty on planes, ATV,s, & trucks. I missed completely & upon flying back home checked zero. Erector had a problem & of course Leupold repaired promptly. On an African safari I had difficulty zeroing a Leupold on a 300 Win. Mag. The baggage handlers must have dropped the gun case out of the hold of the plane because another rifle had the action knocked loose. The problem wasn't with the scope because after a few shots I noticed the rings were knocked loose. I still use Leupold scopes as well as Conquest, & Swarovski. Given enough abuse anything is subject to failure.

So far I have been very fortunate, never had a shot blown by the scope (most of mine are Leupold's, but there are a few Bushnell Elites and a couple of Nikon's in the mix).

i made the longest shot I have made in my life at dusk with a leupold and im not a big leupold fan. I believe there are better but Leupold is almost always "good enough"

I once whiffed a two shots at ~350 yds. at about a 380 pt. bull with a Leupold riding atop my rifle. The day before I had slipped on a shale side-hill and gone down with the rifle under me. Later at the nearest convenient spot we set up a target at 100 yds. and found that it was shooting 12" to the right, no doubt due to the fall on the rocks.

The next year in Wyo on the biggest horse I'll ever climb up on, my rifle, upside down in a scabbard because I'm a lefty, was pulled out by a branch snagging a rear loop of sling. A mile later on dismounting I discovered the scabbard sans rifle. I backtracked, found it in the snow almost the whole mile back. Remembering the past year, I fired it at a make-shift target and found it "dead-on."

So, maybe it was the assaulted Leup's fault, but I'm just as apt to claim it innocent. There will never be a optical/mechanical instrument that will not fail at one time or another when subjected to strain.

like others I have had zeiss, Leupold, Kahles, Nightforce, all go back for repairs, maybe I am tough on stuff I don't know. I argued for years about optics clarity, now I "get it" that holding the zero is what's most important. Yes I did make a bad shot due to a Leupold 1-4 on a 44 mag that would not hold zero.

Not me, I buy Leupold because it has never let me down!

come to think of it I did blow a shot with a Leupold -

It was a big azz hog - slight angle ,bout 140 yards.Took the shot and watched the hog drop dead right where he stood- then I blew the smoke from the end of the smokepole and turned the power back down to 4.5 on my 4.5x14- so yes - I blew a shot with a Leupold.LOLLL

Broke many scopes shooting and testing but, never broke one hunting. Luckily!!!

Edit: I had a 460 Smith eat one, it will remain unnamed to protect the innocent..Complete miss and the scope rattled like a cow bell...The erector tube was in a floating mode!

I wouldn't argue against that.

I've seen most brands of scopes go bad in the field at one time or another, Leupolds are as good or better than any I have used so they are my choice..I have used Leupold more than any other, and I have no complaints. Of course I have sent some back for repair, but they were returned within 2 weeks, fixed or even replaced, no questions asked..I can't say that about any other scope, I had to pay on the rest most of the time.

European scopes are over engineered, over priced, too heavy, and too bulky, and they go heywire as much as any quality scope.

Like everything else on these boards, mostly opinnions.

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Of course you must be aware that the Swarovski 3-10x42 is actually lighter and shorter than a VX3 3.5-10x40,and a Swarovski 3-9x36 is lighter than a VXII 3-9x40.

How about the VXII 3-9x40?

A Dall Sheep in Alaska. I did not have eneough resolution. I finally colected one, but not a s nice. I know this because my friend killed the one that I couldn't see well enough to shoot.

This was around 86 or 87 with a 3X9 Leupy. Not to mention what I may or may not have missed because of thier poor low light performance. Sleep late and in earlier with Leupy they provide more rest for the hunter

will this ever end ..LOLL

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All mine seem to work pretty good for me.

Terry

nope, because we have no shortage of experts who have no qualifications as optics experts other than "wat de seen or hoid".

Heaven forbid anyone admit THEY blew the shot (as I did several years ago with a Steiner 3-9 on a 300 H&H at 100 yards) shot right over that Mule's back and he left quickly. OOPs no it was that crap scope's fault must have lost zero or the coatings failed or the lenses fell apart or, or, or. Funny thing is after the miss, I lined up on a pine knot at 120 yards (lasered) and hit 2.5" high right where it was set to hit. OOPS space aliens fixed the scope between shots ....right?

Thread is a POS, nobody is learning a thing here, just running their mouths.

we really need an ignore feature added for stupid threads.

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How about when they pay less and still get the name on the side of the scope?

Leupold makes a good product but you repeating, time and again, that they are the best doesn't make them so any more than someone repeating, time and again, that Leupolds blow makes them so.

One never knows what it is that they are not seeing until they see it....

Only way I ever blew a potential shot with a Leupold was to stay home and not go hunting. Almost 30 years and not one problem. I'll stick with them I reckon.

REPEAT!

we really need an ignore feature added for stupid threads.

Amen Bro - 43 years here and no problems..

The transition from bino to scope can be very problematic.

Guess this is what happens when you unwrap that first Spit and Bendher.....

LOLLL

This thread had merit until you started self-fulfilling your own vitriol.

Fortunately there IS an ignore feature for individual posters................................DJ

I havent been on this board very long -but damn - why all the hostility on here ?? Just asking - just saying.

No wonder the media and Obama Factors have such a easy time dividing us..we cant even agree to disagree on a outdoor forum..
Is this place so critical that we take shots at each other just for spite..seems to me a few on here could take some anger management of some type..Good grief - its just a outdoor forum,

Don't kid yourself, there are plenty on here that voted funny.

That ain't no lie.....

Why do you post then if this thread is so beneath you sir?

I never said or implied that it was beneath me ..did I ?? If I did I somehow missed it.I'm just new on here and cant seems to figure out how we go from a conversation - to name calling and high school stuff..if you didnt understand my post - sorry.

I usually try to be a little more civil than I tend to be here with a couple people on the optics forum. I thought I was pretty polite about the first 30 or so times "E" mentioned the same incorrect baloney. The next 20 or so I was less polite and yea I can be a little rude to him after so many times of hearing the same old blather. After a while here you'll see what I'm talking about.

On the other hand I never saw much point in making a post that says all a given thread is stupid. Why add to it? If you don't like it just move on unless you can steer it in a better direction.

But your points are taken into consideration. I think it's good that we DO here from newer posters how we sound from the outside and maybe we can adjust our tone a little bit.....................................DJ

He wasn't 'talking' at you, besides you're from Texas so can't be all that bad.

I enjoy the thread - I just dont know or understand how grown men can go from a discussion to name calling and taking shots at each other over a Scope thread thats all..seems all kinda trivial to me..None of us are the same -and thats a good thing-
I can stir the pot with the best of em..trust me - Loll - but hell - this is just a scope thread.I like to debate with anybody on any subject - but why demean yourself - only being on here for a week or so -I have seen and read some award winning stupidity !! But I dont have to call them fella's out -they know who they are.

Off the soapbox & entirely finished with this one.

My only point being that:

"How many have blown a shot because of (fill in the blank)?"

Is a never ending waste of time. There is no contribution of any hard verifiable facts or to any newbie making an intelligent choice.

In most real hunters experience (like African PHs or "out west" guides) 99% of misses are due to the "nut behind the bolt", not equipment failure.

Well said and I concur:
"Off the soapbox & entirely finished with this one."

What's this "we" chit......some of us can advertise and sell in the free classifieds here,....you can't,....

so, how "Special" is that,....?

"We",....good Lord.

GTC

My Leupolds have been gone since the 90's. One of the reasons I stopped using them was tracking problems. Don't remember if any shots were lost because of that, but I saw it happen. I was spotting rockchucks for a friend. He clicked up for a 370yd shot, then clicked back down for another one at something like 150. The scope stayed high and the shot was well over. I've hunted with him a bunch, he's very good with a rifle and almost never misses......never ever a gimme like that. It was a near-new VXIII 6-20. He may/may not have fooled with the knob, I don't remember, but that chuck died next shot. It was just a rockchuck and no big deal. But scope adjustments are supposed to work properly.

WOW just freakn WOW. Ive got a new excuse now. Yea I didnt get a deer this year because my Leupold scope failed me. Just knew I should of bought a Zeiss or Schmidt and Bentit. Of all the things to fail on a hunt unless it gets dropped out of a tree My leupys are the last thing I would ever worry about.

Nope, never had a Leupold fail in any way. They may have been better quality scopes out there, but I've never missed a shot or had a shot that a different scope would have allowed me to take that the leupold couldn't.

Hmmm...Blown shots? No.

Had a Leup 6x develop an audible rattle. Sent it back, fixed free, still have it.

One Bushnell killed by a 7mm mag's recoil, would not focus.

A Busnell 3200 10x fixed ($10 each time) for an elevation turret that was so tight the turret would unscrew from the tube. It did it again and so it went back again. The second time it came back it was fixed, and they threw in scope covers and a discount coupon.

This past fall I set my .308 on sandbags, which the range was kind enough to cover in duct tape, making them slick. I turn around to get something else, and hear a clatter. I turn and see the rifle slide off the bags, bang its way off the concrete bench, land scope down on the concrete pad. I stood there for a moment, stunned, with five other guys also looking kinda distressed. Leup Vari-X-III 2.5x8 - The zero had moved maybe 2" at 100 yards, as best I could tell. Not bad.

Odds are I'll buy a VX3 this year.

I have never had a Leupold let me down mechanically in the field...only one did that and it was a highly touted Euro variable;I won't mention the brand but it is known for fabulous optics (true).

But in the past I have used mostly fixed 4X power Leupolds most of which seem pretty rugged....these are not great low light scopes,and if you have to shoot or see to aim into a shaded slope with a rising sun and bright sky behind it you are screwed most of the time.

But they are rugged.....

I have broken my share of Leupold variables over the years largely through range use.But I have figured out how to avoid this.....after they have seen 800-1000 rounds, I unload them....yes even if they work.Their time is coming; I treat them like disposable napkins.

Lots of variable scopes last a long time because their owners don't shoot much.

I use Leupold on my hunting rifles for many years now, was a long time advocate of them even when they were rare in France. Not a single time a Leupy let me down even after a good fall mountain hunting in french Alps with my heavy N�1 or after my friend fall with my custom AWR and 2,5-8 in Pyrenn�e. I use also S&B, Zeiss, Weaver, Bushnell for hunting and shooting. I trust Leupold and S&B more than others. Note that in Europe Leupold has the best warranty repair service followed by S&B.
That the simple truth!

Not I....but for that matter, I can say the same thing about a few Tasco scopes I've owned!

I missed a Kudu because my Leupold variable was set at 10X and I couldn't find the animal in the scope. Leupold should have included a warning device to alert me. My car warns me if I fail to release the parking brake.

+10 the MOST common error made by variable users. Guess that why everyone is chasing the 3X M8.......

Drop a note to our Kenyan... I'm sure he'll appoint a scope Czar to fix it.

LMAO.

Never had a Leupold cost me an animal, but a Bushnell Elite 3200 did one time. It just wasn't bright enough in the woods at last light for me to feel comfortable making the shot. Sold it and now have a 4200 which doesn't suffer from the same problem.