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That works.

The Jehovah's Witnesses used to come around here quite regularly until about a hear ago. I'm not sure what scared them off, the Skeptics Annotated Bible in the Parlor, or the Ruger Vaquero on top of it.
dat's mean.

But funny smile
Had some stop by yesterday....was nice to them, but told them I, and my family, are saved, and attend our own church weekly. Thanked them for their time and they responded likewise and went on their way.
I resent anyone barging onto my property and prostelitizing their beliefs on me. Be they Mormons ,JWs, or anyone with a religious, political,or moral agenda. I asked the last group what gave them the right to trespass on my property with an agenda that I don't believe in and don't want to hear their ridiculous rationales. One told me he did not see a no trespassing sign. I responded ,"this is Texas, if you are not invited,it is trespassing." How I dealt with the JWs is kind of rotten, but it bought me 20 years of peace. We live in what was a very rural subdivision. Strangers were very noticeable and not a common occurance. I saw the JWs when I returned from running an errand and thought they will not bother me. About 20 or 30 minutes later I saw them walking down my long driveway. I whistled for Greta my champion Rottweiler and told he r to stay at the door. Naturally when the doorbell rang Greta did her Rottweiler thing. I got a firm grip on her collar and opened the door. Needless to say Greta has been gone for 15 years and the JWs have yet to darken my doors. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, but that does not give them the right to force their beliefs on others. If what they believe has validity and truth and merit, most people will discover it on their own. Rant over!
My wife and daughter are JW's. Nicest people you'll ever meet. If you're not interested in what they have to say, just let them know and they'll be on their way. They are human beings just like you. They are husbands and wives, and fathers and mothers, and sons and daughters of someone. No need to be disrespectful or downright cruel just because you disagree with their message. . .
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
No need to be disrespectful or downright cruel just because you disagree with their message. . .


Quite possibly true but in my personal exp. I've met more downright mean nasty Christians than I care to remember.

If'n ya don't walk their walk and talk their talk you are scum.
Not faulting them for what THEY BELIEVE but the way they deliver it that is the sticking point.

Had a few that came here whenever they had some new folks out and about.
Talked with him for a while and told him every time that i had other ideas and was not going to change.

Come to think of it have seen them around town but not on the farm in years.
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
No need to be disrespectful or downright cruel just because you disagree with their message. . .


Quite possibly true but in my personal exp. I've met more downright mean nasty Christians than I care to remember.

If'n ya don't walk their walk and talk their talk you are scum.


It's been just the opposite for me. The atheists have usually been very rude,excluding a few on here. I think it's just the person rather than their beliefs, rude abounds everywhere.
Originally Posted by Porsche73
I resent anyone barging onto my property and prostelitizing their beliefs on me. Be they Mormons ,JWs, or anyone with a religious, political,or moral agenda. I asked the last group what gave them the right to trespass on my property with an agenda that I don't believe in and don't want to hear their ridiculous rationales. One told me he did not see a no trespassing sign. I responded ,"this is Texas, if you are not invited,it is trespassing." How I dealt with the JWs is kind of rotten, but it bought me 20 years of peace. We live in what was a very rural subdivision. Strangers were very noticeable and not a common occurance. I saw the JWs when I returned from running an errand and thought they will not bother me. About 20 or 30 minutes later I saw them walking down my long driveway. I whistled for Greta my champion Rottweiler and told he r to stay at the door. Naturally when the doorbell rang Greta did her Rottweiler thing. I got a firm grip on her collar and opened the door. Needless to say Greta has been gone for 15 years and the JWs have yet to darken my doors. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, but that does not give them the right to force their beliefs on others. If what they believe has validity and truth and merit, most people will discover it on their own. Rant over!


ImalmostgladIcantreadtheparagraph?above....almost
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
No need to be disrespectful or downright cruel just because you disagree with their message. . .


Quite possibly true but in my personal exp. I've met more downright mean nasty Christians than I care to remember.

If'n ya don't walk their walk and talk their talk you are scum.


It's been just the opposite for me. The atheists have usually been very rude,excluding a few on here. I think it's just the person rather than their beliefs, rude abounds everywhere.


Religion often serves as a big Rorschach Test. People see in it what they choose.
I agree 100%. That's why I like JW's, they aren't self righteous Sunday Christians and they aren't Judgmental. Unlike many of those self righteous "born again" types with one eye on your wallet and the other on your wife.

My brother is one of those guys and attends his church every Sunday the first and last thing they do when you go there is pass a plate around. I wouldn't trust his pony tailed hippy pastor any further than I could throw him. They hate the JW's and disparage them openly. I've never heard a JW on the other hand disparage other religions with such disrespect and contempt.

Like I said, my wife is a JW and never once in the 25 years or so she's been one, have they asked us for a dime. All contributions are made privately and on an individual basis. I'm not a religious person and wasn't very happy when she began studying with them but after a while I became very impressed by their Christian like demeanor. They walk the walk and talk the talk. Way more than I can say for a lot of the other so called "Christian" religions I've been around. . .
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
I've met more downright mean nasty Christians than I care to remember.

If'n ya don't walk their walk and talk their talk you are scum.


Anyone remember "Christ At The Campfire" ?

The bible thumpers really showed their true colors causing it to be removed from the board.

My neighbor lady reads her bible for 13 hours a day and hates the world.
Reply to Bubbajay. Typing is not my forte. I never learned the proper skills. Mea culpa mea culpa. Porsche 73
worse than telemarketers on the phone.
These arseholes come knocking on the door.

Fugkin carpetbaggers.

If I wanted your product I'd find YOU!
Don't ever seek me out. I'll sic the dogs on ya.

I have discovered if you don't want them to come back start sharing the Whole Gospel with them. The last one who came to my house came on purpose. My house is a thousand feet from the highway and behind another place. After the hellos he said,
"I'm not here to persuade you...."
"You know that's not true," I corrected with a smile, "God's Word tells us, 'Knowing the terror of the Lord we persuade men,'" .
He smiled and we talked for about half hour.

None ever came by again.
I will disagree with some here about their intentions. If you even listen to their message for a minute, they will be back again, and again, and again. I just don't appreciate what amounts to religious harassment. I tried to hear them out one time when I still lived with my folks and they pestered us all most weekly for months. Dad being the redneck that he was, answered the door with a Colt on his belt and a bull whip in his hand. They quickly got the message. That crazy German bastard was not to be messed with.
Originally Posted by Porsche73
Reply to Bubbajay. Typing is not my forte. I never learned the proper skills. Mea culpa mea culpa. Porsche 73


I took a cheap shot, and shouldn't have, I am sorry for it. Please accept my apology.

They are usually out and about in my neighborhood on Saturday mornings. I'd spoken with a few of the older ladies from time to time and they're always nice. Several years ago on a nice Fall Saturday morning, I had just gotten home from hunting and saw the J.W.'s a few doors down, an older man and woman and a teenage girl of about 15. I carried my gun and gear into the house and as I came back out, they started into the yard and the man said "Sir, may we speak with you a minute?" as I put my hand on the latch of the tailgate of the truck. I said "Sure, I'm a little busy but ya'll are welcome to come back here and talk while I work." I pulled the tailgate down, grabbed the spike of the cow horn buck in the back of the truck and pulled him out onto the ground. Naturally, his tongue popped out and blood splattered the ground. The girl screamed and I swear that poor black girl turned white. The lady said "Maybe we better come back another time." I said "Stick around and I'll give you some meat." They quickly found interest elsewhere but a week later I saw them again and the gentleman spoke to me as they walked to their car and said "Got any of that deer meat left?" I said "Hold that thought!" I came in the house and bagged him two packages of vacuum sealed backstrap. You'd have thought I'd have given him a bag of gold! Nice folks and we've spoken several times but strangely enough, never about religion...
Cool post SCGN and thank you for sharing.

One of our local "evangelists" enjoys camping on our property with his son and it took a little doing to get him "unreved up"

Now we just talk and enjoy what nature has provided.
I know a lady who' s brother and SIL converted. It is sort of a shame as the awkwardnes on both sides about not wanting to evangelize on their part knowing it would not really be wanted and not wanting to have to say they weren't interested on the part of the others kept them apart to the point they didn't even share holidays etc.

As to how to keep them from waking you on Saturday morning you simply have your spouse lay on the front stoop and draw a chalk line around them. String some yellow police crime scene tape around the porch and scatter a few Watchtower pamphlets around .
2 little old ladies came walking up our drive few years back and knocked on the door.

"Hi, we're with the j dubyas and we're here to invite you folks to the Easter morning celebration of Jesus the Christ's death."


"Well, ladies, this household is Christian.
You go celebrate His death while we stay home and celebrate His resurrection."

They turned white as ghosts.
With eyes as big as saucers they whirled on their heels and scurried down the porch step, through the gate, and down the drive faster than either had moved in decades.

I aint seen them since


We are always nice and cordial with them. They know where we stand yet they stop by from time to time anyway. I tend to respect those that fight the good fight.
Apology accepted. You are a true gentleman and I am proud to make your acquaintance. Porsche73
Originally Posted by Archerhunter
2 little old ladies came walking up our drive few years back and knocked on the door.

"Hi, we're with the j dubyas and we're here to invite you folks to the Easter morning celebration of Jesus the Christ's death."


"Well, ladies, this household is Christian.
You go celebrate His death while we stay home and celebrate His resurrection."

They turned white as ghosts.
With eyes as big as saucers they whirled on their heels and scurried down the porch step, through the gate, and down the drive faster than either had moved in decades.

I aint seen them since




Great response.

laugh
A few minutes ago I remember something from when I was a new Christian. A lady at work told me,
"I can see the Holy Spirit all over you. You're going to need this Book." Then she handed me a green hardbound book: New World Translation of The Holy Scriptures. It is the Bible printed by the Jehovah's Witnesses.

I took it to the Sunday School class where I attended. The guy teaching seemed uneasy during his lesson. After the class he walked straight to me and asked about my Bible. He was very concerned because he heard they distort God's Word. I think they try, but if you don't read the words in brackets, like the King James with italics, the Bibles tend to be the same.

I told the guy to take a look at Ephesians 2:8-9. He did and agreed with me it was clearer there. I haven't used that Bible for over thirty years, but I will give it a try at remembering:

"By God's undeserved kindness toward you, you have been saved. Not by your own works....." Someone who knows can correct me if they are inclined.

Anyway the guy always slammed the door in the face of any Jehovah's Witnesses who came calling. The next time they came, it was an older guy and a younger guy. After they introduced themselves he asked if he could show them something in the Bible. One of the guys handed him his Bible. He read the Scripture. The younger of the two responded,
"I need to go home and pray. That is totally new to me."
I have pretty darned effective spam filter. I have never, in thirty years, seen a missionary of any persuasion brave the mile of dirt, dust, mud, puddles, slime, or unplowed snow drfts, depending on seasonal weather systems, that it takes to get to my house.

Hell, I have not even seen the MIL out here since '97.
Originally Posted by gophergunner
I will disagree with some here about their intentions. If you even listen to their message for a minute, they will be back again, and again, and again. I just don't appreciate what amounts to religious harassment. I tried to hear them out one time when I still lived with my folks and they pestered us all most weekly for months. Dad being the redneck that he was, answered the door with a Colt on his belt and a bull whip in his hand. They quickly got the message. That crazy German bastard was not to be messed with.


To my shame I am less than courteous to those people...however, to my delight I was able to inform one lady and her cohort that whilst I was not interested in what she had to say my wife most assuredly was, and that she would be home the next day and would be anxiously awaiting the meeting.


That was twenty-odd years ago and my wife still gets the screaming irrats with me every time she thinks of it.


I on the other hand still just about piss myself laughing when I am reminded of the look on her face when the ladies turned up with an invitation to chat.

Sometimes life is just FUN!
I've always been courteous to them when they show up.
I always tell them that the people across the street have a lot more interest in hearing what they have to say than I do.
I never got bothered at home, but once I was working on a commercial freezer unit, and had a garage door open for ventilation.
Two young fellows walked right in while I'm working on the compressor and started their shpeel.
I politely told them I was happy with my church and my relationship with God, and, figuring they'd leave, turned back to my work.
Only they didn't leave, and continued telling me about their church.
I got a little POed then and told them that I thought it was VERY [bleep] rude of them to continue bothering me at effing work.
THAT got the message acrossed and they evacuated post haste!
7mm
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
No need to be disrespectful or downright cruel just because you disagree with their message. . .


Quite possibly true but in my personal exp. I've met more downright mean nasty Christians than I care to remember.

If'n ya don't walk their walk and talk their talk you are scum.



Ain't that the truth . . .
Originally Posted by Godogs57
Had some stop by yesterday....was nice to them, but told them I, and my family, are saved, and attend our own church weekly. Thanked them for their time and they responded likewise and went on their way.


I'm at work when they show up. But my wife has that approach. She's just nice to them, listens, and then tells them we are religious in our own way. With the way the world is today, I'd rather have them at my door that some variant of today's trash walking the streets.

I always thought the JH witness get-up would be a great 3 person burglary ring.

2 Men 1 woman…..woman stands near the door …watching, after break-in, men go thru house…….
Reckon the best way to deal with Jehovah's Witnesses is to be a witness of your own. Do you have the knowledge of The Word enough to show them the error of their teaching? Ultimately, we should do unto them as we would have them do unto us.
I'am glad that where I live there's a township ordinance against door to door solicitation.

I politely inform them of the ordinance and I'am calling the sheriff right now.
Originally Posted by Reloder28
Reckon the best way to deal with Jehovah's Witnesses is to be a witness of your own. Do you have the knowledge of The Word enough to show them the error of their teaching? Ultimately, we should do unto them as we would have them do unto us.


I agree. I look at it as an opportunity for dialog with people who actually care about the subject. Fine people, seeking like a lot of us.
Originally Posted by BarryC
Originally Posted by Reloder28
Reckon the best way to deal with Jehovah's Witnesses is to be a witness of your own. Do you have the knowledge of The Word enough to show them the error of their teaching? Ultimately, we should do unto them as we would have them do unto us.


I agree. I look at it as an opportunity for dialog with people who actually care about the subject. Fine people, seeking like a lot of us.


Good post my friend. I had one JW ask if he could come back by himself. His handlers were waiting in the car. That boy was real excited to hear some of the things I was showing him but sadly he didn't come back.
Baptists are FAR worse.
Back in high school I used to go visit this old gent across town on saturday afternoons.
He always had some crazy project going on and everyone enjoyed his antics and considered him an entertaining fellow.

Up the walk comes a couple jw's.
He listens politely to their opening recitations then says with a smile, "Ya know, if the US postal service would let you stupid fugkers deliver the mail the gov't could save millions."

Back down the walk they went and away.

I loved the Baptist Minister that came to my door with his 6 year old daughter.

Baptist: 'Do you know where you are going when you die?'

Me: 'Nope'

Baptist: 'If you accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and savior, you would know where you are going when you die'

Baptist turns to his 6 year old daughter and asks: 'Honey, where will you go when you die'

Daughter: 'Heaven'

Baptist: 'Why'

Daughter: 'Because I believe in Jesus Christ'

Baptist Minister then looked at me with a rather smug look on his face. I then asked him if I could ask his daughter a question, he said yes.

Me: 'Do you believe in Santa Claus'

Daughter: 'YES!'

I then saw his smug look disappear and I said 'Have a nice day' as I closed the door.

About four decades ago, a pair of JWs came to my front door. I answered the bell in my Air Force uniform. They started their spiel with, "Wouldn't it be wonderful if there was world peace?" To which I replied, "In my business? Hell no." They left.

The JWs hold an annual convention here in Ogden, Utah (of all places!) and during that week, the city fairly crawls with them. Two or even three visits to each house are not uncommon. My neighbor and I were building a block retainer wall once, really sweating and filthy, when a primly dressed couple of them asked if they could be of assistance. So I handed each of them a shovel. They left.

A JW convention in a deeply Mormon state is fun to watch. Dueling missionaries. Tracts at ten paces: turn and proselytize.
We've only seen them a few times out in the country. And years apart at that. Simply tell em we are good, and to have a good day.

Haven't had a problem.

Only one time, did one push it a bit with Dad and Dad had a few words out of the book with him and that was it.

I've heard far worse from some folks though.

We've hunted with a Baptist minister for years now in AK that knows we are Lutheran, there isnt a single thing about religion that has ever come up, other than maybe the first year when we brought his kids a brick of 22 or some such, we got a camo covered bible back in our tent one day in return( we were not always in camp at the same times) But never a word.

I suspect that since all people are human, even JWs have a mix of nice folks and some azzholes just like the fire and life.
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I loved the Baptist Minister that came to my door with his 6 year old daughter.

Baptist: 'Do you know where you are going when you die?'

Me: 'Nope'

Baptist: 'If you accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and savior, you would know where you are going when you die'

Baptist turns to his 6 year old daughter and asks: 'Honey, where will you go when you die'

Daughter: 'Heaven'

Baptist: 'Why'

Daughter: 'Because I believe in Jesus Christ'

Baptist Minister then looked at me with a rather smug look on his face. I then asked him if I could ask his daughter a question, he said yes.

Me: 'Do you believe in Santa Claus'

Daughter: 'YES!'

I then saw his smug look disappear and I said 'Have a nice day' as I closed the door.


lol
My 6 yo daughter told me just yesterday, "Did you know, dad, that there is no Santa?"

"You gotta be kidding me!
What's Rudolf the red nose gonna do? file for unemployment?"

laugh
She just gave me her cute little scowl she always deploys when no smart assed retort comes to mind.

Jesus said, "As you are going, make disciples, teaching them to observe all I have commanded you."
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I loved the Baptist Minister that came to my door with his 6 year old daughter.

Baptist: 'Do you know where you are going when you die?'

Me: 'Nope'

Baptist: 'If you accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and savior, you would know where you are going when you die'

Baptist turns to his 6 year old daughter and asks: 'Honey, where will you go when you die'

Daughter: 'Heaven'

Baptist: 'Why'

Daughter: 'Because I believe in Jesus Christ'

Baptist Minister then looked at me with a rather smug look on his face. I then asked him if I could ask his daughter a question, he said yes.

Me: 'Do you believe in Santa Claus'

Daughter: 'YES!'

I then saw his smug look disappear and I said 'Have a nice day' as I closed the door.



I gotta hand it to you SH, only you could come up with a reply as perfect as that on the spur of the moment! Well done!
I tell anyone who comes to my home .... if they are UN-invited and UN-expected they are also UN-welcome.
I tell them to give me their address and I'll stop by
sometime. Probably right after the bars shut down.
No takers.
Q: What do you get when you cross a Hell's Angel with a Jehovah's Witness ?

A.) Somebody that comes up to your door and tells YOU to fugg off.

GTC
Originally Posted by Reloder28
Jesus said, "As you are going, make disciples, teaching them to observe all I have commanded you."


Fine with me. They're more than welcome to observe me and mine from the other side of the property line.
Originally Posted by Reloder28
Jesus said, "As you are going, make disciples, teaching them to observe all I have commanded you."



As a Christian I have to respect that the JWs do as Jesus commanded. I often wonder why it is other Christian religions do NOT follow the commandment of Jesus to go and make deciples

I also wonder why it is Christians fought one another in world wars, particular world war 2 where 24 out of 28 nations were Christian nations many of whom were fighting one another while at the same time praying to the same God?

The Civil War likewise has me baffled where as an entire nation of Christians picked up weapons and slaughtered one another.

In the first century when Christianity was extended to every corner of the globe it was the first time ever in history this had been done. A defining mark of Christianity and one of the fruitage of the spirit is UNITY. Are modern day Christians United or have they caused devisions among themselves? There are more than 9000 devisions.

Christians have never before in biblical history fought against and killed one another. There is no biblical reference to this and it appears most modern day evangelists have Reinvented the bible.

One Christian religion stands out in accepting the biblical council to love your brother and have not participated in such activities for more than 100 years.







Shod
I answer the door naked w/ a coyote pelt draped over my head.


mike r
Whatever happened to the hari krishnas at the airports?


I was thinking bout joining them but they seem as a rare as hens teeth these days?
Originally Posted by lvmiker
I answer the door naked w/ a coyote pelt draped over my head.


mike r



Lmao


Pix? Uh no thank you. Oh you made me laugh. Thank you
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
I'm not sure what scared them off, the Skeptics Annotated Bible in the Parlor, or the Ruger Vaquero on top of it.


It was the Ruger. Last time they showed up here 2 years ago I answered the door with the 1911 Mexican style and exposed, by the look on their faces you'd a thought my dick was hanging out.

They haven't been back since.
Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
Whatever happened to the hari krishnas at the airports?


I was thinking bout joining them but they seem as a rare as hens teeth these days?


I'm thinking declining membership due to:

Quote
members not only chant a 16-word mantra to Hare Krishna, sometimes lasting hours a day, they agree to abstain from meat, gambling, alcohol and illicit sex.


grin laugh
That's no life!
Originally Posted by Porsche73
Apology accepted. You are a true gentleman and I am proud to make your acquaintance. Porsche73


Larry, THREE different logins now? FOAD you decrepit old psycho!
The old queer's sending me PMs, too.

Rick,how's your supply of creepy troll spray holding out ?



GTC
Originally Posted by Reloder28
Jesus said, "As you are going, make disciples, teaching them to observe all I have commanded you."


Oh good, so if you come to my front door and I drive a knife through your lung for being an annoying twat you will turn the other cheek...or do you selectively observe.
Originally Posted by Hotload
I tell anyone who comes to my home .... if they are UN-invited and UN-expected they are also UN-welcome.


^^^^^^^^^

This.



I have a " No Soliciting" sign on my doorbell, and another on the door saying specifically I don't want their products, politics, or religion and for years I even had a doormat that plainly said " GO AWAY"


Woe be to anyone knocking on the door that I didn't invite.



The last few religious zealots that ignored the signage never got a single word in our extremely brief conversations....
In high school, I'd spend hours debating with Jehovah's Witnesses when they stopped at the farm. For years, after I'd gone away to college and grad school, they came back asking for me.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
I'm not sure what scared them off, the Skeptics Annotated Bible in the Parlor, or the Ruger Vaquero on top of it.


It was the Ruger. Last time they showed up here 2 years ago I answered the door with the 1911 Mexican style and exposed, by the look on their faces you'd a thought my dick was hanging out.

They haven't been back since.


laugh
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Porsche73
Apology accepted. You are a true gentleman and I am proud to make your acquaintance. Porsche73


Larry, THREE different logins now? FOAD you decrepit old psycho!


That is not Larry, FYI.
Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
Whatever happened to the hari krishnas at the airports?


I was thinking bout joining them but they seem as a rare as hens teeth these days?


I'm thinking declining membership due to:

Quote
members not only chant a 16-word mantra to Hare Krishna, sometimes lasting hours a day, they agree to abstain from meat, gambling, alcohol and illicit sex.


grin laugh



That explains it. Thanks Denny. I'd shoot myself too if that's what I'd signed up for

No meat? Yikes
Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by Hotload
I tell anyone who comes to my home .... if they are UN-invited and UN-expected they are also UN-welcome.


^^^^^^^^^

This.



I have a " No Soliciting" sign on my doorbell, and another on the door saying specifically I don't want their products, politics, or religion and for years I even had a doormat that plainly said " GO AWAY"


Woe be to anyone knocking on the door that I didn't invite.



The last few religious zealots that ignored the signage never got a single word in our extremely brief conversations....



Tom how long you been prez of the local welcome wagon society in your burgh?


We were always careful to tell our children that Santa Claus was pretend and only lives in our imagination,but on the other hand God is real and wants to live in our heart.

Same here.

1 Timothy 4:7

"But have nothing to do with worldly fables fit only for old women. On the other hand, discipline yourself for the purpose of godliness;"
Jorge I have been reading your posts here and on AR for many years and they are logical,thoughtful, and articulate posts. I do not understand your last post, but I am sure there is an agenda or past history of which I am ignorant. I am not trying to stir the pot but am curious as to what you meant in your post. Thanks in advance for any and all info. Porsche73


He has mistaken you for someone else.


I suggest you let it go and put it down to one of those things...or he will make you look at a picture of one of his Weatherbys.
.460 Wby.

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Now with a Leupold 1x-4x.

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God almighty Porsche...now look what you have done!
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
.460 Wby.

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Now with a Leupold 1x-4x.

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Do you think, that's enough gun, for a rabbit?
Have you ever seen Monty Python Holy Grail?

No such thing as too much gun!

smile

Originally Posted by Shodd


As a Christian I have to respect that the JWs do as Jesus commanded. I often wonder why it is other Christian religions do NOT follow the commandment of Jesus to go and make deciples
Shod


Oh, that's easy.

They hire it done.

So much easier and cleaner that way, and "supporting a missionary" only costs a few bucks a month to buy your soul ......
My elderly buddy, he can *talk* you understand and with terrific insights, and among many of his life's adventures he contemplated being a minister at one point in life. He's private about his beliefs generally but it's evident his encyclopedic memory applies to the bible, too.

Anyway, the JW visited one day at the farm. He invited them in, they sat down, and Charles launched rapidfire into one sermon, discussion, and/or theological inquiry after another for the better part of a day before the JW's managed to extricate themselves.

They never came back. Maybe they concluded their work was already accomplished. But I like to think Charles just wore their azzes out.
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
My wife and daughter are JW's. Nicest people you'll ever meet. If you're not interested in what they have to say, just let them know and they'll be on their way. They are human beings just like you. They are husbands and wives, and fathers and mothers, and sons and daughters of someone. No need to be disrespectful or downright cruel just because you disagree with their message. . .


Respectful of those who don't hold Patriotism for this Country of ours sacred?

Agree with the "being nice" part to the "Russelites". But I never have heard of one of them returning any Christmas presents they received.
I guess it 'tis the season because Karl Keating just posted a great one on the subject:

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Late one Saturday afternoon, I was snoozing on the sofa when the doorbell awakened me. Craning my neck, I noticed two well-dressed young women at the screen door.

“What can I do for you?” I called out, thinking they were Avon ladies and not wanting to be disturbed.

“We’re Witnesses of Jehovah, and we’d like to share some Scripture truths with you.”

I was up in a flash. My wife was about to put an early supper on the table. “Go ahead without me,” I told her. “I have work to do.” I stepped onto the porch and closed the door behind me.

Wanting to get the upper hand immediately, I said to the proselytizers, “I’m glad you’re here. I take considerable interest in your faith. I have a copy of the New World Translation of the Bible, the one your Brooklyn headquarters distributes. I subscribe to Awake! and Watchtower magazines. I have several of the books designed to instruct you in door-to-door work, including Reasoning from the Scriptures. I want you to know that I appreciate your zeal and am grateful that you have come to my door.

“Now, before we go any further, tell me a little about yourselves. I presume neither one of you was brought up as a Jehovah’s Witness.” My guess was right. One woman was a former Methodist, the other a former Catholic. Naturally enough, I intended to zero in on the latter.

“You say you want to share Scripture truths. That’s laudable. Why don’t we start with the Gospel of John?” I had them open to the sixth chapter, and we went through it slowly.

In the first part Jesus feeds the five thousand. He provides them, miraculously, with earthly food, a foretaste of what is to come. In the last half of the chapter, he promises to provide them, miraculously, with heavenly food—his own body and blood. “I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh” (John 6:51).

“Consider the reaction of his listeners,” I said to the Witnesses. “The Jews who were listening to our Lord asked themselves, ‘How can this man give us his flesh to eat?’ They took him literally, didn’t they?” The former Methodist made no sign, but the former Catholic nodded slightly.

“Look at what Jesus did not do. He did not correct them. He did not say, ‘You misunderstand. What I said was just a metaphor.’ There was no need for him to say that because they had understood him properly.” Jesus repeated himself: “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you . . . for my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed” (John 6:53–55).

Then, I noted, came objections not from the Jews who all along had opposed Jesus but from his own disciples, people who had accepted everything up to this point. “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?” (John 6:60). Again, no attempt was made to “correct” Jesus’ listeners and to assure them that he spoke merely in symbols. He upbraided them: “There are some of you that do not believe” (John 6:64). “After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer went about with him” (John 6:66)—the only place in Scripture in which any of Jesus’ followers left him for a doctrinal reason.

I stepped close to the former Catholic and looked her square in the eyes. “And do you know who was among the unbelievers?” She shook her head slowly, her mouth slightly agape. In my snakiest voice I whispered, “It was Judas-s-s-s!”

Her eyes grew wide. Verse 64 refers to the betrayer and brackets him with those “that did not believe.” The disbelieving disciples at least had the courage of their convictions, I said. They ceased to profess with their presence what they no longer believed in their hearts. Judas, rejecting the teaching on the Real Presence, nevertheless stayed with Jesus. Later on he would steal from the common purse, becoming a thief, and later still he would hand the Master over to the executioners, but his first betrayal was in the form of disbelief.

“You need to get right with God,” I exhorted my visitors. “You need to study Scripture more diligently. You need to pray to Jehovah God and ask him to enlighten you about the real meaning of this chapter. And you in particular,” I said, turning on the former Catholic, “need to come back to the Church that Jesus established—the only Church that gives the authentic interpretation of these verses and of all verses in the Bible. Quite innocently, I’m sure, you have allowed yourself to abandon Jesus’ own Church. Don’t be like the disciples who rejected his hard sayings and turned away from him.”

They told me they would think about it.
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