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Posted By: smokepole Treason? - 07/16/17
How can someone commit "treason" against a political candidate who is not part of the federal government?
Posted By: CCCC Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Am thinking that treason is not committed against a person.
Posted By: smokepole Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Exactly.
Posted By: Greyghost Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
In trying to over throw the government... in this case the election system!

Phil
Posted By: Leanwolf Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Originally Posted by Greyghost
In trying to over throw the government... in this case the election system!

Phil


You mean the way Hillary and Podesta sent their left wing operatives to the Ukraine to get "dirt" on Trump from the Ukraine government? You know, like the "dossier" that was a total lie about the "golden showers" onto Hussein's and Michelle's bed.

That's what you mean, right?

L.W.
Posted By: navlav8r Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
We're not "at war"...
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Originally Posted by navlav8r
We're not "at war"...


This.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Originally Posted by Greyghost
In trying to over throw the government... in this case the election system!

Phil



So registering millions of wetbacks to vote, keeping them inside the US to do so, and counting those votes in national elections falls under that too?
Posted By: smokepole Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Originally Posted by Greyghost
In trying to over throw the government... in this case the election system!

Phil


Trump Junior has been accused of treason for taking the meeting. Trying to get dirt on your opponent is not an attempt to tamper with the election or "election system."

It may have been an attempt to damage Hilary Clinton, which is where the accuser's loyalties lie.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Greyghost
In trying to over throw the government... in this case the election system!

Phil


Trump Junior has been accused of treason for taking the meeting. Trying to get dirt on your opponent is not an attempt to tamper with the election or "election system."

It may have been an attempt to damage Hilary Clinton, which is where the accuser's loyalties lie.



Yeah, it's just more liberal lies and pandering propaganda.

Hillery herself had a branch of her campaign known as the "War Room" where a team of her campaign people were assigned to dig up dirt on her opponents. First Bernie. Then Trump...

Digging up dirt ain't a crime.

Evidently inventing it isn't either...
Posted By: Muffin Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
By Section 110 of Article III. of the Constitution of the United States, it is declared that:

"Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason."

Can sometimes be difficult.......

On occassion the only difference between a Patriot and a Traitor is timing!
Posted By: StarGazer Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
There is no treason here. What Trump and his band of retards will be prosecuted for is criminal conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. Section 371.

It's clear as day. If you knew the backgrounds of the prosecutors that Mueller has hired so far this is the obvious conclusion.

But it's a witch hunt after all, amirite?
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Originally Posted by muffin
By Section 110 of Article III. of the Constitution of the United States, it is declared that:

"Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason."

Can sometimes be difficult.......

On occassion the only difference between a Patriot and a Traitor is timing!


Very true and something I've thought about often. Timing and support. There has to be support in numbers for the actions of the initiator.
Posted By: smokepole Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Originally Posted by StarGazer
There is no treason here. What Trump and his band of retards will be prosecuted for is criminal conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. Section 371.

It's clear as day. If you knew the backgrounds of the prosecutors that Mueller has hired so far this is the obvious conclusion.

But it's a witch hunt after all, amirite?



Laughable. It'll never happen.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Originally Posted by Greyghost
In trying to over throw the government... in this case the election system!

Phil


the way the dnc an hillaree did to your stupid assed bernie?
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Originally Posted by StarGazer
There is no treason here. What Trump and his band of retards will be prosecuted for is criminal conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. Section 371.

It's clear as day. If you knew the backgrounds of the prosecutors that Mueller has hired so far this is the obvious conclusion.

But it's a witch hunt after all, amirite?


You wont be right and breathing concurrently.
Posted By: Middlefork_Miner Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Originally Posted by StarGazer
There is no treason here. What Trump and his band of retards will be prosecuted for is criminal conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. Section 371.

It's clear as day. If you knew the backgrounds of the prosecutors that Mueller has hired so far this is the obvious conclusion.

But it's a witch hunt after all, amirite?

What "CRIMINAL STATUTE" did they break??? You friggin retarded snowflakes really don't realize how ignorant you come off as....do you?

ETA....In order to be indicted for a criminal conspiracy, they have to have violated a criminal statute right? NO LAWS WERE BROKEN....jackass.
Posted By: rlott Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Originally Posted by StarGazer
There is no treason here. What Trump and his band of retards will be prosecuted for is criminal conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. Section 371.

It's clear as day. If you knew the backgrounds of the prosecutors that Mueller has hired so far this is the obvious conclusion.

But it's a witch hunt after all, amirite?


Which backgrounds are you referring to?

Are you talking about Comey BFF Robert Muller who’s donated a total of $33,000 to Democrat political campaigns over the years including Michael Dukakis, Al Gore, John Kerry, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton?

Or the lawyer Muller imported from his old law firm, James Quarles, who’s donated thousands of dollars to Democrats including $2,700 to Hillary last year?

Or Jeannie Rhee, who’s donated $16,000 to Democrats and also worked as a lawyer for the Clinton Foundation?

Or Andrew Weissmann, who donated $2,300 to Obama in 2008 and $2,600 to the DNC in 2006.

Or Michael Dreeben, who donated $250 to Hillary in 2006?

Are those the backgrounds you’re talking about?
Posted By: Greyghost Re: Treason? - 07/16/17

Blinders sure come out when an R is put in front...


Phil
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Originally Posted by Greyghost

Blinders sure come out when an R is put in front...


Phil



What it sounds to me like is a case of simply making the charges before actually creating any evidence.

You'd think that just one solid document of evidence would have been produced by now after the better part of a year passing, as well as over 130 major news stories that are all over the map.
Posted By: gregintenn Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Originally Posted by StarGazer
There is no treason here. What Trump and his band of retards will be prosecuted for is criminal conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. Section 371.

It's clear as day. If you knew the backgrounds of the prosecutors that Mueller has hired so far this is the obvious conclusion.

But it's a witch hunt after all, amirite?

Yeah, dumbass! It's a witch hunt.
Posted By: nighthawk Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
I suppose you could make a case for treason, but only in bizarro world. You know, that place where MSM lives.
Posted By: StarGazer Re: Treason? - 07/16/17
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by StarGazer
There is no treason here. What Trump and his band of retards will be prosecuted for is criminal conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. Section 371.

It's clear as day. If you knew the backgrounds of the prosecutors that Mueller has hired so far this is the obvious conclusion.

But it's a witch hunt after all, amirite?

What "CRIMINAL STATUTE" did they break??? You friggin retarded snowflakes really don't realize how ignorant you come off as....do you?

ETA....In order to be indicted for a criminal conspiracy, they have to have violated a criminal statute right? NO LAWS WERE BROKEN....jackass.


Listen up, douche nozzle. This is the last free legal advice I'm going to give you. I know you have Down's Syndrome but I am guessing you can read. Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 371. That is the statute that they will be prosecuted under. And if you have Autism as opposed to Down's Syndrome then I apologize for stating that you have Down's Syndrome. Either way you have been dealt a bad hand in life.

Now go get your shine box.
Posted By: kroo88 Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Originally Posted by Greyghost

Blinders sure come out when an R is put in front...


Phil


Tell me ol' cornholing liberal(or is that redundant?)---Don't all newborns leaving California-based hospitals have fully-functioning government-paid-for blinders permanently affixed before heading home to enjoy some yummy food-stamp bought formula?
Posted By: rlott Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Originally Posted by StarGazer
This is the last free legal advice I'm going to give you.


It's true! You really do get what you pay for.
Posted By: Springcove Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
MeatGazer you have been so right so far and all along. YAWN...

Go back and post coital your inmate...
Posted By: StarGazer Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Springcove:

Last we spoke you were banging your sister. Are you still pounding her? How is it? You might want to try someone not as closely related to you like a first cousin. But please stick to girls.

Thanks for touching base.
Posted By: Kellywk Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Originally Posted by StarGazer
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by StarGazer
There is no treason here. What Trump and his band of retards will be prosecuted for is criminal conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. Section 371.

It's clear as day. If you knew the backgrounds of the prosecutors that Mueller has hired so far this is the obvious conclusion.

But it's a witch hunt after all, amirite?

What "CRIMINAL STATUTE" did they break??? You friggin retarded snowflakes really don't realize how ignorant you come off as....do you?

ETA....In order to be indicted for a criminal conspiracy, they have to have violated a criminal statute right? NO LAWS WERE BROKEN....jackass.


Listen up, douche nozzle. This is the last free legal advice I'm going to give you. I know you have Down's Syndrome but I am guessing you can read. Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 371. That is the statute that they will be prosecuted under. And if you have Autism as opposed to Down's Syndrome then I apologize for stating that you have Down's Syndrome. Either way you have been dealt a bad hand in life.

Now go get your shine box.


What federal agency do you think they defrauded?
Posted By: StarGazer Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Originally Posted by Kellywk
Originally Posted by StarGazer
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by StarGazer
There is no treason here. What Trump and his band of retards will be prosecuted for is criminal conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. Section 371.

It's clear as day. If you knew the backgrounds of the prosecutors that Mueller has hired so far this is the obvious conclusion.

But it's a witch hunt after all, amirite?

What "CRIMINAL STATUTE" did they break??? You friggin retarded snowflakes really don't realize how ignorant you come off as....do you?

ETA....In order to be indicted for a criminal conspiracy, they have to have violated a criminal statute right? NO LAWS WERE BROKEN....jackass.


Listen up, douche nozzle. This is the last free legal advice I'm going to give you. I know you have Down's Syndrome but I am guessing you can read. Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 371. That is the statute that they will be prosecuted under. And if you have Autism as opposed to Down's Syndrome then I apologize for stating that you have Down's Syndrome. Either way you have been dealt a bad hand in life.

Now go get your shine box.


What federal agency do you think they defrauded?



It's easier to post a link rather than draft a response. Start with this:

https://sidebarsblog.com/collusion-...urce=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

You might also wish to know that the number of prosecutors hired by Special Counsel Mueller is now up to 25. Every one of those prosecutors quite their jobs to take on this job. Hint: Nobody does that unless they know they have a case to make.

Thanks.
Posted By: Kellywk Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Originally Posted by StarGazer
Originally Posted by Kellywk
Originally Posted by StarGazer
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by StarGazer
There is no treason here. What Trump and his band of retards will be prosecuted for is criminal conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. Section 371.

It's clear as day. If you knew the backgrounds of the prosecutors that Mueller has hired so far this is the obvious conclusion.

But it's a witch hunt after all, amirite?

What "CRIMINAL STATUTE" did they break??? You friggin retarded snowflakes really don't realize how ignorant you come off as....do you?

ETA....In order to be indicted for a criminal conspiracy, they have to have violated a criminal statute right? NO LAWS WERE BROKEN....jackass.


Listen up, douche nozzle. This is the last free legal advice I'm going to give you. I know you have Down's Syndrome but I am guessing you can read. Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 371. That is the statute that they will be prosecuted under. And if you have Autism as opposed to Down's Syndrome then I apologize for stating that you have Down's Syndrome. Either way you have been dealt a bad hand in life.

Now go get your shine box.


What federal agency do you think they defrauded?



It's easier to post a link rather than draft a response. Start with this:

https://sidebarsblog.com/collusion-...urce=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

You might also wish to know that the number of prosecutors hired by Special Counsel Mueller is now up to 25. Every one of those prosecutors quite their jobs to take on this job. Hint: Nobody does that unless they know they have a case to make.

Thanks.




The problem I see with the article is that if the Russians didkt intend to offer anything of use (jr's adoption story holds up) then there isn't a meeting of he minds. Also I've known guys that sign up for special prosecutor duty and usually they know nothing about the merits of their case going in. THey do it bc it's hell of a resume padder when they go back into private practice


Edited to add this: I think under the articles premise it's like the guys tat get popped for Coke possession but get off bc it's fake. The intent may have been there but with Their getting Info and trying to use it I don't see a criminal act
Posted By: Springcove Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Is that the best you got inmate lover???

Again how many times have you been right so far???

Wait for it... Zero times!!!

Next
Posted By: local_dirt Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Originally Posted by rlott
Originally Posted by StarGazer
There is no treason here. What Trump and his band of retards will be prosecuted for is criminal conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. Section 371.

It's clear as day. If you knew the backgrounds of the prosecutors that Mueller has hired so far this is the obvious conclusion.

But it's a witch hunt after all, amirite?


Which backgrounds are you referring to?

Are you talking about Comey BFF Robert Muller who’s donated a total of $33,000 to Democrat political campaigns over the years including Michael Dukakis, Al Gore, John Kerry, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton?

Or the lawyer Muller imported from his old law firm, James Quarles, who’s donated thousands of dollars to Democrats including $2,700 to Hillary last year?

Or Jeannie Rhee, who’s donated $16,000 to Democrats and also worked as a lawyer for the Clinton Foundation?

Or Andrew Weissmann, who donated $2,300 to Obama in 2008 and $2,600 to the DNC in 2006.

Or Michael Dreeben, who donated $250 to Hillary in 2006?

Are those the backgrounds you’re talking about?


Comey would give Mueller his left kidney at this point.
Posted By: mtnsnake Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Treason is very specific. No treason has been committed by a Trump.
Posted By: Muffin Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Dershowitz...............

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahb...-about-treason-with-no-evidence-n2355809
Posted By: smokepole Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Treason is very specific. No treason has been committed by a Trump.



And to prove"collusion" you have to prove collusion to commit a specific crime other than "collusion." No on can say what crime was committed. Yet they're willing to throw around words like "collusion" and "treason."

Pathetic.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
The "Collusion" buzz word is the funny part...

Has anyone ever been charged with collusion?

What crime exactly is collusion?

Statues?
Posted By: WyColoCowboy Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
LBJ would never have taken a meeting to get dirt on an opponent, much less Barack Hussein Obama.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/11/axelrod-denies-leaking-obama-opponents-sex-secrets/

http://nypost.com/2011/05/23/obama-digging-up-dirt-on-potential-opponent-chris-christie/

http://www.npr.org/2012/05/14/152683320/the-job-dig-up-dirt-on-politicians



Quote
It’s no surprise, then, that Democrats have airdropped a mini-army of 30 lawyers, investigators and opposition researchers into Anchorage, the state capital Juneau and Mrs. Palin’s hometown of Wasilla to dig into her record and background. My sources report the first wave arrived in Anchorage less than 24 hours after John McCain selected her on August 29.

The main area of interest to the Democratic SWAT team is Mrs. Palin’s dismissal in July of her public safety commissioner. Mrs. Palin says he was fired for cause.

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/elec...ent-thirty-30-lawyers.html#ixzz4n6GU6dVB
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Originally Posted by Greyghost
In trying to over throw the government... in this case the election system!

Phil


And this was accomplished how?.. Oh, you're still an idiot.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Posted By: smokepole Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
The "Collusion" buzz word is the funny part...

Has anyone ever been charged with collusion?

What crime exactly is collusion?

Statues?



I will admit to having colluded once. And it worked.

60 people, and not a one spilled the beans to my wife about her surprise birthday party.
Posted By: RickyD Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by navlav8r
We're not "at war"...


This.

The "progressives" have not got the memo. We are most certainly at war with them.
Posted By: mtnsnake Re: Treason? - 07/17/17
She may want them under oath but I want then in jail.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Treason? - 07/18/17
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Greyghost
In trying to over throw the government... in this case the election system!

Phil


Trump Junior has been accused of treason for taking the meeting. Trying to get dirt on your opponent is not an attempt to tamper with the election or "election system."

It may have been an attempt to damage Hilary Clinton, which is where the accuser's loyalties lie.



Yeah, it's just more liberal lies and pandering propaganda.

Hillery herself had a branch of her campaign known as the "War Room" where a team of her campaign people were assigned to dig up dirt on her opponents. First Bernie. Then Trump...

Digging up dirt ain't a crime.

Evidently inventing it isn't either...

The police do it all the time to get convictions.
Posted By: Muffin Re: Treason? - 07/18/17
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
The "Collusion" buzz word is the funny part...

Has anyone ever been charged with collusion?

What crime exactly is collusion?

Statues?


Only if collusion is the same as Conspiracy..... As my 'Source' I cite Inspector Callahan:

Lt. Dobbs:
Are you finished with the questioning, Callahan?

Harry Callahan:
Hypothetical situation, huh? All right, I'm standing on the street corner, and Mrs. Grey there comes up and propositions me. She says if I come home with her, for $5 she'll put on an exhibition with a Shetland pony...

Mrs. Grey:
If this is your idea of humor, Inspector...

Lt. Dobbs:
All right, what are you trying to do here, Callahan?

Harry Callahan:
I'm just trying to find out if anybody in this room knows what the hell law is being broken, besides cruelty to animals.

Kate Moore:
That's a conspiracy under title 7, Section 182, Paragraph 1 of the California Penal Code. A conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor is in fact a felony, and according to People vs That's a conspiracy under title 7, Section 182, Paragraph 1 of the California Penal Code. A conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor is in fact a felony, and according to People vs Basso...

Having said (typed) all that, with regard to the TRUMP admin. I do not believe there is any there there.......................
Posted By: Muffin Re: Treason? - 07/18/17
Originally Posted by Greyghost
In trying to over throw the government... in this case the election system!

Phil


There are 50................. which one??? Which, of the 50, if more than one??? Or was it all??
Posted By: Seafire Re: Treason? - 07/18/17
The democRATs are doing step by step right out of the Communist Manifesto...

Obstruction, obstruction, obstruction...

undermine the government ( Trump) as much as humanly possible...

it doesn't have to make sense..

the sad thing is that Trump keeps buying into it, by trying to clear his name
from all of these accusations, when he shouldn't be giving these people the time
of day....

and he needs to start using his executive powers on these people...

Someone should teach Donald, in politics.. nice guys finish last..
Posted By: smokepole Re: Treason? - 07/18/17
Originally Posted by Seafire


and he needs to start using his executive powers on these people...

Someone should teach Donald, in politics.. nice guys finish last..


Which executive powers would you have him "use on people?"

And do you really think Trump doesn't understand that nice guys finish last?
Posted By: steve4102 Re: Treason? - 07/18/17
Originally Posted by Seafire
The democRATs are doing step by step right out of the Communist Manifesto...

Obstruction, obstruction, obstruction...

undermine the government ( Trump) as much as humanly possible...

it doesn't have to make sense..

the sad thing is that Trump keeps buying into it, by trying to clear his name
from all of these accusations, when he shouldn't be giving these people the time
of day....

and he needs to start using his executive powers on these people...

Someone should teach Donald, in politics.. nice guys finish last..

Nonsense

Please explain what Executive Powers President Trump can use against "these people"?
Posted By: milespatton Re: Treason? - 07/18/17
Quote
Someone should teach Donald, in politics.. nice guys finish last..


The very root of the problem is that the majority of the people wanted and got someone that is not a politician. That means that He most likely did not know how deep the corruption was and how hard it would be to clean it up. Now I think that He is a fast learner but this is something that He was not expecting. I think that He thought that after He won even the Democrats would get behind Him for the most part and try to help America. The current Democrats care nothing about this country, just themselves and what power they can grab. Some, maybe most of the Republicans are showing more and more of this trend. We need to vote out whatever we can every primary, keep the power but change it, until Washington is changed back to working for America. miles
Posted By: smokepole Re: Treason? - 07/18/17
Originally Posted by milespatton
I think that He thought that after He won even the Democrats would get behind Him for the most part and try to help America.


I'm sure he was under no such illusion. His campaign was pretty much built on a huge middle finger to the left.
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