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Posted By: DryPowder Remington 591M - 11/04/18
Is there any 5mm fans here?
Posted By: GreatWaputi Re: Remington 591M - 11/04/18
I've had a couple. Both were accurate with Remington factory ammo, but finding ammo was a royal PITA, so I sold them both.
Posted By: cisco1 Re: Remington 591M - 11/04/18

I have one.
Shoots good. Kinda cheap rifle.
I guess I am drawn to oddballs. I would get rid of it ...but, I don't think it is worth much. I don't remember where I put it.
Posted By: K22 Re: Remington 591M - 11/04/18
Originally Posted by DryPowder
Is there any 5mm fans here?



Yes. Always thought it was a great Fox round back when Red Fox had a bounty on them and you could get a good price for the pelts. Winchester 22 mag. had a better following and several companies were offering the ammo, while the 5mm was hard to find ammo for in rural area's where I lived.
I wish I would have bought one and stock up on the ammo.
By the time I could buy one in my area I already had a 22mag. and the 17 Rem. was just coming out. In 71 I bought a 17 Rem. and that was the beginning of the end for Predator rimfire rifles for me. It was until a few years ago that I started shooting my 22 mag. again.
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Remington 591M - 11/05/18
I have a 592 and a 580 parts gun.

I thought that the 5mm REM MAG was getting a chance to rise from the grave when Aguila started making 5mm ammo, but they started and then stopped so quickly that no firearms manufacturer had time to study the market and make a decision of whether or not to produce new rifles in 5mm.

That said, the 5mm Aguila Centurion ammo never shot as good as the original Remington 37 grain HPPL ammo.
Posted By: Hippy Re: Remington 591M - 11/05/18
Originally Posted by K22
Originally Posted by DryPowder
Is there any 5mm fans here?



Yes. Always thought it was a great Fox round back when Red Fox had a bounty on them and you could get a good price for the pelts. Winchester 22 mag. had a better following and several companies were offering the ammo, while the 5mm was hard to find ammo for in rural area's where I lived.
I wish I would have bought one and stock up on the ammo.
By the time I could buy one in my area I already had a 22mag. and the 17 Rem. was just coming out. In 71 I bought a 17 Rem. and that was the beginning of the end for Predator rimfire rifles for me. It was until a few years ago that I started shooting my 22 mag. again.


I have had at least one 591 in my arsonal since they were 1st introduced- for those who believe a 22 Mag is as good as the 5MM all I can say is U never owned one. When fox pelts were worth something it was my go to gun as well as Turkeys.
Mine has been bedded and has the 541 Trigger in it although the accuracy is not on par with the 17 HMR is will and does kill as effective - the ammo issue is really sad the 5mm Aguila Centurion false hope is SAD for us all . I have been in constant contac with them and am getting the sam "Canned Pitch" for 5 years there 22LR ammo is at give away prices you would thing that they would concentrate on the 5 MM which is still in HIGH demand

Jim
Posted By: mart Re: Remington 591M - 11/05/18
I got my first rifle when I was 13, a Savage 34M 22 magnum. A neighbor kid the same age got a 591 at the same time. This kid was a mid life oops, born to older parents and very spoiled. He was also a braggart of the first order. I remember hunting woodchucks with him a couple of time and how he would go on at great length about how much better the 5mm was than my 22 Magnum. He even admonished me to stock up on ammo because he thought the 22 magnum was a passing fad.

I'm still shooting that 34M almost 50 years later.
Posted By: kjohn Re: Remington 591M - 11/06/18
I have a 591. I, too, wish I had bought a few cases of ammo. I have bought and sold a couple of 591''s over the past few years. Last ammo I sold at the Calgary Easter show for $50 a box, and the fellow asked if I had more.

I have two CZ 455's in .17hmr. At $16-20 a box, they are too expensive to do any "fun" shooting. I use them to great effect on gophers.
Posted By: DryPowder Re: Remington 591M - 11/06/18
Scheels in Reno has one in the rack for $199.00 It's a good looking gun with a Bushnell Scope.
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Remington 591M - 11/07/18
Originally Posted by DryPowder
Scheels in Reno has one in the rack for $199.00 It's a good looking gun with a Bushnell Scope.


A nice 591 would be a good buy at $199 IF (BIG IF) ammo was available from Aguila/Centurion.
Posted By: DryPowder Re: Remington 591M - 11/09/18
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by DryPowder
Scheels in Reno has one in the rack for $199.00 It's a good looking gun with a Bushnell Scope.


A nice 591 would be a good buy at $199 IF (BIG IF) ammo was available from Aguila/Centurion.


Thats what I thought. If anybody wants it, give them a call.
Posted By: gemby58 Re: Remington 591M - 11/11/18
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by DryPowder
Scheels in Reno has one in the rack for $199.00 It's a good looking gun with a Bushnell Scope.


A nice 591 would be a good buy at $199 IF (BIG IF) ammo was available from Aguila/Centurion.



buy it and get a 581 barrel and make a nice shooting 22 mag out of it, will have to do modification to the mag and bolt head, iyou will have a 2 round shooter, or make it a single shot, did this to a couple 591s8
Posted By: Dude270 Re: Remington 591M - 11/11/18
What's the word on the aguila ammo? Will it ever come back?

I love my 591 and 592 and my last brick of aguila is getting low
Posted By: JediWing19 Re: Remington 591M - 10/29/23
Recently picked up a Remington Model 591M. Can you use regular 5mm ammo? Or do you have to use 5mm mag? Or either?
Thank you for your time.
Posted By: steveredd1 Re: Remington 591M - 10/29/23
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by DryPowder
Scheels in Reno has one in the rack for $199.00 It's a good looking gun with a Bushnell Scope.

A nice 591 would be a good buy at $199 IF (BIG IF) ammo was available from Aguila/Centurion.


Change it to centerfire, I would buy all the 591's at $199
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Remington 591M - 10/29/23
Originally Posted by JediWing19
Recently picked up a Remington Model 591M. Can you use regular 5mm ammo? Or do you have to use 5mm mag? Or either?
Thank you for your time.

What is "regular 5mm ammo"?
Posted By: JediWing19 Re: Remington 591M - 10/29/23
Sorry guess I should’ve stated “non mag 5mm”.
I’ve noticed some ammo posted as “5mm” and some posted as “5mm mag”.
Posted By: JediWing19 Re: Remington 591M - 10/29/23
But realizing it was all “5mm mag”. I apologize for the confusion.
Posted By: cisco1 Re: Remington 591M - 10/29/23
I have a mag fed, don't remember 591 or 592. Cheap-ass Remington crap, designed by some kid in the shipping dept, but good cartridge. I have quite a lot of ammo, don't shoot it , afraid it will break.

I have a WSM.
Posted By: JediWing19 Re: Remington 591M - 10/29/23
Originally Posted by cisco1
I have a mag fed, don't remember 591 or 592. Cheap-ass Remington crap, designed by some kid in the shipping dept, but good cartridge. I have quite a lot of ammo, don't shoot it , afraid it will break.

I have a WSM.

What is it that you don’t like about the rifle? The way it shoots? Does it jam? Or just doesn’t feel right?
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Remington 591M - 10/29/23
Originally Posted by cisco1
I have a mag fed, don't remember 591 or 592. Cheap-ass Remington crap, designed by some kid in the shipping dept, but good cartridge. I have quite a lot of ammo, don't shoot it , afraid it will break.

I have a WSM.

They are cheap rifles. My 581 cost IIRC $44.95 in 1967. It’s been a long time since I had it out, but I dragged that thing all over the place as a kid and as an “adult” without a single problem. The original magazine got a bit sticky, so I picked up a spare when they were still cheap, but I think it really just needs cleaning and maybe a bit of lube. I wouldn’t mind picking up one of the nicer rifles built on the same action, but they are priced beyond their worth to me. A CZ is a much better value, especially the 457s that fixed all my gripes with the older models.

The 5mm is a good cartridge, but not good enough to justify the trouble involved, when one of the .17s or .22 mag will do the same jobs.
Posted By: JediWing19 Re: Remington 591M - 10/29/23
Thanks for the info. Guess I’ll have to live and learn.
Posted By: cisco1 Re: Remington 591M - 10/29/23
Like Pappy explained. look at the bolt and extractor, not to mention the trigger.
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Remington 591M - 10/29/23
I have a Remington 592, the tubular magazine style, and have also had a 591, the detachable magazine style. The 592 shoots the original 37 grain HPPL load better than the Aguila/Centurion 30 grain load. The 591 was long gone before the Mexican ammo was available, but it also shot the original 37 grain HPPL load into MOA or better groups. The 580 parts gun isn't as accurate as the 592 with either ammo, but I think that the barrel might be at fault. I still have a couple thousand rounds of ammo on the shelf, about half and half between the original R-P and the newer Aguila/Centurion, but I never seem to get around to taking either rifle with me when I go afield or to the range.

If you can find the Aguila/Centurion ammo and your rifle shoots either of their 30 grain load wells, they are fun guns.
Posted By: JediWing19 Re: Remington 591M - 10/29/23
Haven’t been able to find any of the 37-38 grain but have seen some of the 30 grain, which of course is usually on back order.
Posted By: Blackheart Re: Remington 591M - 10/30/23
Originally Posted by JediWing19
Haven’t been able to find any of the 37-38 grain but have seen some of the 30 grain, which of course is usually on back order.
There never was a 37 grain bullet loaded for the 5mm. The original Remington ammo used a 38 grain power lokt hollow point and the Aguila stuff was loaded with a 30 grain HP and a 30 grain hollow soft point.The original 38 grain Remington load was significantly better than either of the Aguila loads and a better killer than anything ever loaded in the 17HMR or .22 WMR. Anybody who says different hasn't used all three.
Posted By: cra1948 Re: Remington 591M - 10/30/23
I had a 501 for a few years. I would love to see the 5mm come back to life and a few decent rifles offered, but we all know the likelihood of that happening.

I never used one enough to be comfortable saying it was any better than the .22 WMR for killing stuff. I do know some guys up on the border that I used to run coyotes with who thought it was, but like a lot of these issues, nobody looks really hard at things like shot placement etc. Given the current situation, it is really a less than relevant argument.

I do know one guy who had one converted over to CF, along with the attendant reloading dies etc.

Someone could/should write a book about Remington's failed great ideas.
Posted By: cisco1 Re: Remington 591M - 10/30/23
Their biggest failure was the way the Sandy Hook lawsuit was handled.
Posted By: JMUPT Re: Remington 591M - 10/30/23
I just purchased a 591M at a local online gun auction 2 weeks ago. As soon as I was the winning bidder, I tried to find some ammo. I was able to find some Aguila ammo and ordered several boxes. This past weekend I mounted a leupold m-8 4x scope and sighted it in a 50yds. I then moved on to the 100yd target and shot a 5 shot group. I couldn't tell exactly what the group looked like looking through the scope. When I walked to the target I was pleasantly surprised. I did not expect it to shoot as well as it did, especially since the trigger is not very good.

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Posted By: Yoder409 Re: Remington 591M - 11/04/23
Originally Posted by cra1948
I would love to see the 5mm come back to life and a few decent rifles offered, but we all know the likelihood of that happening.

You and me, BOTH.

Have both a 591M and a 592M. Never bought any of the original 38 grain loads, so I have nothing to compare to. But, the 30 grain Mexican stuff is just pretty impressive IMO. My 592M seems to like it a little better than the 591M. My best, to date, is 280 lasered yards on a fairly small groundhog.

Wanting to get it out calling coyotes some day to see how it does there.
Posted By: k22hornet Re: Remington 591M - 11/07/23
I've had the 591 since about 1970, or so, and still have 199 rounds of the original 38gr ammo.

That rifle has shot lot's of stuff, fox, racoons, opossums, crows, pigeons, turkeys and the list goes on.

For the past 20 years, it has been my main fall turkey gun.
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